So disappointed (sumping)
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"being untruthful when you complained on another post about having to keep your RPM's below 3500 to minimize the oil transfer between the transmission and primary?"
i have no idea what you are talking about...I stated from Day 1 that after a period of riding near the red line I noticed the trans fluid level issue..Steve Cole advised me it was an rpm related issue, in which case I stopped riding that way and noticed the trans fluid stopped dropping..don't know where you're coming from..unless you're talking about the experiences I stated with my friends' bikes not having problems, aside from a few minor things..I consider my transfer issue minor because i know how to manage it and it was never anywhere near as severe as so many have reported..and none of my friends have this issue, or sumping or anything major going on...none of us, with well over 60,000 miles has ever been left stranded or had our bikes in the shop being torn down, inspected, claims filed, or, or, or
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Because he paid 25K for a bike that if rode hard over 3,500 RPM transfers transmission oil to the primary. What fool rationalizes riding under 3,500 RPMs as a solution. Ultimate M8 fanboy.
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I hope this sumping issue gets resolved soon and I certainly consider this to be a serious issue that should not be downplayed or trivialized. Steve Cole has stated that every M8 he checked had a sumping problem. When someone talks out of both sides of their mouth that just pisses me off. I currently own a 2014 FLHTK but will someday want to trade up and think the M8 is the future of HD but not ready to get my money.
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what fool knowingly, voluntarily and intentionally would abuse his power train to the point of potentially ruining it and their Summer of long trip plans if they had a satisfactory and manageable workaround until a root cause and solution is determined because they are still under warranty. Thankfully they were smart enough to not bastardize their powertrain with after market performance parts while under warranty. Same fool that believes the handful of problems reported on an internet forum out of the ~100,000 sold represent the rule rather than the exception because the facts are after a year you haven't heard a single thing publicized outside of said forum. Ultimate M8 Hater.
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Hmmmm, lots of editing of posts. Interesting for sure. Remember when he was singing the praises of the m8 when it first came out??? A gazillion miles of testing, years in development, so much power, so much better etc. etc....(yes I'm paraphrasing) now riding the greatest motor ever under 3500 rpm's to control the migration issue. The moco probably wishes their were more guinea pigs like him and the problem would be solved.
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A common symptom is a loss of horsepower. When the oil pump doesn't pull enough oil out of the bottom end the fly-wheel has to spin in the excess oil. It slows things down and makes it sluggish.
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And since so much oil is in the crank case, other parts of the engine are starved of oil, which destroys engine parts, burns the remaining oil, etc.
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Hmmmm, lots of editing of posts. Interesting for sure. Remember when he was singing the praises of the m8 when it first came out??? A gazillion miles of testing, years in development, so much power, so much better etc. etc....(yes I'm paraphrasing) now riding the greatest motor ever under 3500 rpm's to control the migration issue. The moco probably wishes their were more guinea pigs like him and the problem would be solved.
I hope this sumping issue gets resolved soon and I certainly consider this to be a serious issue that should not be downplayed or trivialized. Steve Cole has stated that every M8 he checked had a sumping problem. When someone talks out of both sides of their mouth that just pisses me off. I currently own a 2014 FLHTK but will someday want to trade up and think the M8 is the future of HD but not ready to get my money.