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Old Sep 23, 2017 | 07:08 PM
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Are the YM 18's sumping ?
Is it only the bikes with hydraulic clutches .Only tourers ?
Can someone give me model specifics plz.
 

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Old Sep 23, 2017 | 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by badcooky
Are the YM 18's sumping ?
Is it only the bikes with hydraulic clutches .Only tiurers ?
Can someone give me model specifics plz.
Sumping and oil migrating from the transmission to the primary are 2 separate issues. No material difference between 17 and 18 M8s. Roll the dice.

Both 17 and 18 have hydraulic clutches, but hydraulic clutches have been on cvos without problems for years, so that's not the problem
 

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Old Sep 23, 2017 | 07:28 PM
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Do the Softails have hydraulic clutches ?
 
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Old Sep 23, 2017 | 07:38 PM
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what fool knowingly, voluntarily and intentionally would abuse his power train to the point of potentially ruining it and their Summer of long trip plans if they had a satisfactory and manageable workaround until a root cause and solution is determined because they are still under warranty. Thankfully they were smart enough to not bastardize their powertrain with after market performance parts while under warranty.
I dunno. Ain't a problem on my.... what did you call it? Oh yeah, "unreliable vendor modified twin cam".

Same fool that believes the handful of problems reported on an internet forum out of the ~100,000 sold represent the rule rather than the exception because the facts are after a year you haven't heard a single thing publicized outside of said forum
I'm really confused now:

Are you now saying the problem doesn't exist or is not the rule because the only issues you know about are the folks having the problem on this forum? How many of the 100,000 shipments were bought by members here?

I though I had read that you said you were having the problem? Oh, I forgot. You fixed yours by not exceeding 3,500 RPMs.
 
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Old Sep 23, 2017 | 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by badcooky
Are the YM 18's sumping ?
Is it only the bikes with hydraulic clutches .Only tourers ?
Can someone give me model specifics plz.
Yes. My 2018 Limited is sumping. They installed the latest pump last week in an effort to stop oil from loading up the air filter and running down the front of the engine. Before getting approval to do anything the Tech was instructed to ride the bike at 3000 rpm ( for how long I don't know) and return to the shop without letting the bike idle. Shut it down and drain the sump. Found 7 oz of oil.
Well after 500 miles it's still the same piece of ***** as before the new pump install. Dropped it off again at the dealer today.
 
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Old Sep 23, 2017 | 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by oleboy
I dunno. Ain't a problem on my.... what did you call it? Oh yeah, "unreliable vendor modified twin cam".



I'm really confused now:

Are you now saying the problem doesn't exist or is not the rule because the only issues you know about are the folks having the problem on this forum? How many of the 100,000 shipments were bought by members here?

I though I had read that you said you were having the problem? Oh, I forgot. You fixed yours by not exceeding 3,500 RPMs.
I'm much happier and enjoy my M8 RK much more than I ever did my Rushmore RK and it's not even close..that's all that matters to me..I'm done talking to TC fan boy M8 haters on an "M8 forum"..how about you go your way and I'll stay put here..if you don't own an M8 your credibility and opinion on them on an M8 forum is worthless anyway
 
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Old Sep 23, 2017 | 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by LA VIC
Yes. My 2018 Limited is sumping. They installed the latest pump last week in an effort to stop oil from loading up the air filter and running down the front of the engine. Before getting approval to do anything the Tech was instructed to ride the bike at 3000 rpm ( for how long I don't know) and return to the shop without letting the bike idle. Shut it down and drain the sump. Found 7 oz of oil.
Well after 500 miles it's still the same piece of ***** as before the new pump install. Dropped it off again at the dealer today.
Yeah, that's the way you check for sumping. The motor has to be revving high enough to produce normal pressure and scavaging. It needs to be shut off while still at RPM. I've checked it on the side of the road after hitting the kill switch and coasting to a stop with the clutch pulled in. A couple ounces is normal, seven would be a bit much. Have you done a stage 3 or 4 on your bike or is it still stock?
 
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Old Sep 23, 2017 | 09:37 PM
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I'm much happier and enjoy my M8 RK much more than I ever did my Rushmore RK and it's not even close..that's all that matters to me..I'm done talking to TC fan boy M8 haters on an "M8 forum
You probably had to buy the M8 so that you could roll your stage 1 costs into financing because you couldn't afford to spend the cash on a stage 1 to get your Rushmore bumped up a few HP/TQ.

how about you go your way and I'll stay put here..if you don't own an M8 your credibility and opinion on them on an M8 forum is worthless anyway
There you go. Getting all personal again. I don't see how quoting your prior posts, (as flip flop as they may have been) concerning problems you were having with transmission transfer or posting M8 stock HP/TQ numbers (which I got from Fuel Moto's website) to disagree with you that stock M8 performance sucks, has hurt my credibility.

I think I'll hang around a bit.
 
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Originally Posted by badcooky
Do the Softails have hydraulic clutches ?
Nope. They don't.
 
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Old Sep 23, 2017 | 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by $tonecold
Yeah, that's the way you check for sumping. The motor has to be revving high enough to produce normal pressure and scavaging. It needs to be shut off while still at RPM. I've checked it on the side of the road after hitting the kill switch and coasting to a stop with the clutch pulled in. A couple ounces is normal, seven would be a bit much. Have you done a stage 3 or 4 on your bike or is it still stock?
What's unfortunate about this is that when you shut the motor off at RPM, RPMs go to 0.
 
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