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Old Dec 8, 2017 | 05:58 AM
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This is the response I got when I indicated that the oiling problems on the M8s could be eminating from internal vortexes, caused by the balance weight spinning in the crankcase housing.
However, there is no doubt that there is a hurricane inside the M8 and just a strong wind inside the Twincam?
After doing the Stage 111 on the 107, I rode it 100 miles before making an oil change.As usual I do this hot and allow the oil to drain for an hour or so, before idling the engine for a minute,( to expell the oil from the internal passages.)
You would expect the oil to come out and pour into the tray, as occurs with the all the Twincams done before? NOT!!,the blast of air blew oil across the floor past the end of the front wheel!
Maybe it is the Aliens?Or could it be as simple as those fancy new plastic shrouded breathers not working as planned?
Lots of smart guys out there so I leave it to them to consider,while I go look for Luke Skywalker
 
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Old Dec 8, 2017 | 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Peter Quinn
This is the response I got when I indicated that the oiling problems on the M8s could be eminating from internal vortexes, caused by the balance weight spinning in the crankcase housing.
However, there is no doubt that there is a hurricane inside the M8 and just a strong wind inside the Twincam?
After doing the Stage 111 on the 107, I rode it 100 miles before making an oil change.As usual I do this hot and allow the oil to drain for an hour or so, before idling the engine for a minute,( to expell the oil from the internal passages.)
You would expect the oil to come out and pour into the tray, as occurs with the all the Twincams done before? NOT!!,the blast of air blew oil across the floor past the end of the front wheel!
Maybe it is the Aliens?Or could it be as simple as those fancy new plastic shrouded breathers not working as planned?
Lots of smart guys out there so I leave it to them to consider,while I go look for Luke Skywalker
So, I assume that the air-blast came just as the last of the oil was draining?

Somethin's definitely screwy there! The MoCo's only had, what, 115 years to figure out how to vent a crankcase? Maybe another century or so will give 'em time enough to muddle through a fix! Too bad Henry Ford's not still around, since the Model A's & T's didn't have this problem. He could give 'em a hand.
 
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Old Dec 8, 2017 | 10:33 AM
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Interesting practice: draining your oil for an hour, and then allowing the engine to idle for a minute.
 
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Old Dec 8, 2017 | 11:01 AM
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"May the force be with you."
 
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Old Dec 8, 2017 | 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Peter Quinn
This is the response I got when I indicated that the oiling problems on the M8s could be eminating from internal vortexes, caused by the balance weight spinning in the crankcase housing.
However, there is no doubt that there is a hurricane inside the M8 and just a strong wind inside the Twincam?
After doing the Stage 111 on the 107, I rode it 100 miles before making an oil change.As usual I do this hot and allow the oil to drain for an hour or so, before idling the engine for a minute,( to expell the oil from the internal passages.)
You would expect the oil to come out and pour into the tray, as occurs with the all the Twincams done before? NOT!!,the blast of air blew oil across the floor past the end of the front wheel!
Maybe it is the Aliens?Or could it be as simple as those fancy new plastic shrouded breathers not working as planned?
Lots of smart guys out there so I leave it to them to consider,while I go look for Luke Skywalker
Am I understanding this correctly? Are you saying you start your engine up and allow it to run for one minute with no oil in it?
 
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Old Dec 8, 2017 | 12:21 PM
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Am I understanding this correctly? Are you saying you start your engine up and allow it to run for one minute with no oil in it?
That's what he is saying. He has a lot of trust with his oil choices.I am sure all parts are still coated with oil but after draining for a hour and then run for a minute seems abusive.
 
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Old Dec 8, 2017 | 12:28 PM
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WARRANTY VOID!! Don't tell your dealer you do that.
 
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Old Dec 8, 2017 | 12:39 PM
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I've never understood the "start the bike" during an oil change method. Heck, I don't even like the few seconds it takes to fill the oil filter and get pressure after a filter change. But to each their own. I'll continue to leave a few ounces of old oil in the engine... There is no way I'm starting my engine while draining the oil.
 
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Originally Posted by 2black1s
I've never understood the "start the bike" during an oil change method. Heck, I don't even like the few seconds it takes to fill the oil filter and get pressure after a filter change. But to each their own. I'll continue to leave a few ounces of old oil in the engine... There is no way I'm starting my engine while draining the oil.
Agreed!!
 
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Old Dec 8, 2017 | 02:42 PM
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There are scavenger tools to help draw out the remaining oil without this risky step. I usually pay and ask the dealer to run an extra quart through to help flush it when they do the change.

As for the air blast...that seems all kinds of wrong...yikes.
 

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