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Old Jan 29, 2019 | 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by mjwebb
there's nothing like that going on over there, where 1 obsessed person dominates the same ol thing year after year now reporting nothing new..not even close
Ok, do share. From start to finish, of your countless post, please tell me what you "shared"

1. The observed issue
2. What oil you were using
3. You started riding less aggressive, and haven't seen the problem since

Three items, great. I picked up on it and observed my bike to see if I had similar issues.....but I don't think that can account for the hundreds of post you've made on the transfer.
 
Old Jan 29, 2019 | 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by mjwebb
there's nothing like that going on over there, where 1 obsessed person dominates the same ol thing year after year now reporting nothing new..not even close
Oh I don't know....you seem to have almost the same # of posts about sumping as I do. You show up on every thread to whine about my posts. Doesn’t that make YOU obsessed about sumping?? Lol
 

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Old Jan 29, 2019 | 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by RinTin
It's funny how no one is acknowledging the fact that a M8 CVO limited cost $44K plus tax, plus freight plus accessories. If any of you bought a 44K automobile, and had to change engines (1 for me, 3 for Heatwave) would you be happy? Baffling, simply baffling.

And as for you MJwebb, why don't you go look at your 3000+ thread on tranny transfer, and how many times you posted there. Not to mention the countless other threads. You have no place to talk about people posting about an issue.
I'm starting to think you and Heatwave are the same guy,you sure do mention him in your post way to much. All we know for sure is you both have the internet.
 
Old Jan 29, 2019 | 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by RinTin
Ok, do share. From start to finish, of your countless post, please tell me what you "shared"

1. The observed issue
2. What oil you were using
3. You started riding less aggressive, and haven't seen the problem since

Three items, great. I picked up on it and observed my bike to see if I had similar issues.....but I don't think that can account for the hundreds of post you've made on the transfer.
nah, you missed soooo much which I had to clear up the misperception way too many times....the brief period of 3500 rpm's was a recommendation which I validated, then proceeded to rid any way I wanted too since so approaching 2 years now, with very manageable periodic trans fluid loss..you only read and mis-state what you want to, which is incomplete and inaccurate..so out of respect for Heatwave, we can now return to our normal scheduled sumping broadcast
 
Old Jan 29, 2019 | 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by tbob
I'm starting to think you and Heatwave are the same guy,you sure do mention him in your post way to much. All we know for sure is you both have the internet.
There is ONLY ONE Heatwave!!
 
Old Jan 29, 2019 | 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by mjwebb
nah, you missed soooo much which I had to clear up the misperception way too many times....the brief period of 3500 rpm's was a recommendation which I validated, then proceeded to rid any way I wanted too since so approaching 2 years now, with very manageable periodic trans fluid loss..you only read and mis-state what you want to, which is incomplete and inaccurate..so out of respect for Heatwave, we can now return to our normal scheduled sumping broadcast
MJwebb, I feel like every time we talk you are in some other world. After all these years of you dirt biking and riding your motorcyle, I hope you knew you were suppose to wear the helmet while riding, not inside your house.

Have a good night bonding with heatwave. I am done for tonight...
 
Old Jan 29, 2019 | 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Max Headflow
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IMO the issue likely has to do with piston ring seal. Some level of ring leakage / scavenge pump function causes the problem combined with some characteristics of the rider.
I agree with this fully, and have stated it from the onset. It has been long known that there have been out-of-round reports on the factory cylinders, and also the Screamin' Eagle cylinders. There has to be a direct connection there.

I have never seen a report of sumping from owners with aftermarket stage kits like mine. Never. I measured the cylinders and the pistons prior to installing them and everything was perfect. Zero oil consumption and good ring seal. I'm convinced that this has been the root cause of the issue. HD, it would seem, has made this determination also since they have incorporated the seal on the scavenging pump. It's no coincidence.


 
Old Jan 29, 2019 | 05:15 PM
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I agree with this fully, and have stated it from the onset. It has been long known that there have been out-of-round reports on the factory cylinders, and also the Screamin' Eagle cylinders. There has to be a direct connection there.

I have never seen a report of sumping from owners with aftermarket stage kits like mine. Never. I measured the cylinders and the pistons prior to installing them and everything was perfect. Zero oil consumption and good ring seal. I'm convinced that this has been the root cause of the issue. HD, it would seem, has made this determination also since they have incorporated the seal on the scavenging pump. It's no coincidence.
Your cylinders should only be perfect when installed. If they checked out perfect free standing then they are now out of round and barrel shaped when installed. You know what I mean and why.
 
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Originally Posted by RinTin
It's funny how no one is acknowledging the fact that a M8 CVO limited cost $44K plus tax, plus freight plus accessories. If any of you bought a 44K automobile, and had to change engines (1 for me, 3 for Heatwave) would you be happy? Baffling, simply baffling...
Excellent post. If anyone had purchased a $44,000 Lexus or Mercedes-Benz, and the engine grenaded before the first service, does anybody think they'd be calm and logical, and hold the company utterly blameless, especially after they found out that they were FAR from being the only one?
 
Old Jan 29, 2019 | 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by RinTin
It's funny how no one is acknowledging the fact that a M8 CVO limited cost $44K plus tax, plus freight plus accessories. If any of you bought a 44K automobile, and had to change engines (1 for me, 3 for Heatwave) would you be happy? Baffling, simply baffling.

And as for you MJwebb, why don't you go look at your 3000+ thread on tranny transfer, and how many times you posted there. Not to mention the countless other threads. You have no place to talk about people posting about an issue.
I understand why you are not happy, but why you expect others to be unhappy about your problems is simply baffling to me. Honestly, I couldn't care less how many engines you guys toast.
 



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