2018 M8----Sumping? Failures?
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From: Downingtown, PA
My 2018 SGS was built in July so I have the original oil pump. So far so good here. I plan to keep it stock so I doubt I will have problems. Still, its good to know so I can keep a close eye on. If I ever have an issue, I will bring it right in to get the pump swapped out for the new version. Happy I bought the 5 year warranty just incase...
John
John
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From: Idaho
It ran for 25 miles before it started losing power.
Edit: Found it...
After taking delivery of my 18 Softail Heritage Anniversary 114, I had 25 trouble free miles. Then, all of a sudden while accelerating, it was like I released the throttle to idle (I didn't), the check engine light was on and it was running at a high idle (1500 rpm). Fastest speed I could get to was 25 mph. The bike's been at the dealer a couple of days and the factory tech will be at the dealer tomorrow. Hopefully they find the problem. They've already replaced the throttle body, changed out pin connectors and repaired one broken wire.
Last edited by IdahoHacker; Feb 5, 2018 at 02:13 AM.
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From: Oz
That sounds more like "limp mode" than Sumping. Will be interesting to hear what they find.
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From: People's Republic of Boulder Colorado
But then again, it's the MoCo, so maybe revision #30 will be the tipping point.
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From: People's Republic of Boulder Colorado
Frankly I would be reticent to do anything until the sumping issue is solved. As Mr. Coles mentioned they are now on their seventh iteration of an upgraded oil pump. I am afraid they may be using the ole swag method of solving this problem. SWAG = Scientific Wild *** Guess!
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From: Jones
I have in the office 6 different pump designs. Many of them have the exact same part number on them as HD did not change the part number nor add a version number. For awhile they were adding small marks on the pump body but at some point stopped that too. So this is why its hard to track them all as you can get the same part number today as you could before but they are different pumps. Thats just why with the current part number you must also look for date code on the box. So the Service bulletin doesn't come close to telling the whole story.
Now in the past every manufacture I know of revises the part number when the part is changed! HD used to do this as well, but for some reason has stopped and just decided to change the part and leave no paper trail it was changed!
Now in the past every manufacture I know of revises the part number when the part is changed! HD used to do this as well, but for some reason has stopped and just decided to change the part and leave no paper trail it was changed!
I might not need it since I am on the second engine on my '17 CVO, after two different(?) oil pumps in initial engine. But who knows when the engine was built and with what pump...
Thank you in advance.
FrankEGD
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Many of them have the exact same part number on them as HD did not change the part number nor add a version number.
that is because it isn't a part number, it is a casting number, take two items with the same casting number, machine them differently and you have two different parts and two different part numbers but both items have the same casting number, this is not something new, HD has been doing it for years
that is because it isn't a part number, it is a casting number, take two items with the same casting number, machine them differently and you have two different parts and two different part numbers but both items have the same casting number, this is not something new, HD has been doing it for years
Last edited by Heatwave; Feb 7, 2018 at 12:54 PM.
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From: CA
Yeah it’s called a lemon law or heck even a class action lawsuit. I am all in.
Reading these posts about sumping issues and trans leaking into the primary one simple question? WHY hasn't a new HD owner sued HD over these flaws?
Reading these posts about sumping issues and trans leaking into the primary one simple question? WHY hasn't a new HD owner sued HD over these flaws?
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From: Charlottesville
Have tried. They are just to big for just one guy with just one bike. Been there and done that.