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Old Jan 31, 2019 | 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Heatwave
Not at all when I know the facts and someone is posting lies about me. By default, that makes them a liar. I am not seeking your opinion on my credibility. You can keep it. I have nothing to sell to anyone on this forum (unlike others). Back to the topic of sumping.
You’re still here?

Get a life and move on. (Especially after admitting cheating on warranty.)
 
Old Jan 31, 2019 | 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by mjwebb
"how you kept it stock and rides under 3.5K RPM" wrong and wrong..you only read what you want, take it out of context..really don't know wtf you are even talking about

my bike has been a dyno tuned Stage 1 for 2 years and in compliance and I ride it anyway I like anytime I like..I read my warranty and clearly understand it..some have lower levels of comprehension skills I guess

I keep wanting to ask you if you could possibly be any stupider but been afraid you'd take that as a challenge
I recall you saying your bike didn't transfer trans oil if you road it under 3500 RPM's and would do so until HD got the problem figured out.
 
Old Jan 31, 2019 | 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Fullbore55


You’re still here?

Get a life and move on. (Especially after admitting cheating on warranty.)











Still here and not going anywhere. Enjoying my life to the fullest and thankful for my good fortune. Never cheated on anyone or anything. Debt free. Pay all obligations on time or early. NO ONE EVER has to chase me for payment. Comply with the terms of my agreements and expect others to do the same. Its America last time I checked and any property I own is mine to do with as I please. NO ONE says what I can do... or not do.... with property I purchased with the fruits of my labor. God Bless America!

Harley and my dealer fulfilled their obligations on my bike and owe me nothing. I paid them in full and I owe them nothing. My views on sumping are primarily motivated by my strong desire to own another new Harley. But until there is clear and convincing evidence that Harley has taken the issue seriously with a significant update to the M8 engine design (or a new engine) to address sumping and fluid migration, I will not be purchasing another Harley.

My interest in this thread is to follow along as they make progress ... or not... in resolving these M8 issues that appear to be inherent to the design and are still problematic after 3 years of product production. 2020 will be their last chance to keep me as a new bike customer (too many quality alternatives on the market), however I'll never give up my 2010 CVO Ultra.
 

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Old Jan 31, 2019 | 10:08 AM
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The thing i find funny is some people have no sumping than the next can have 2-3 engines in a row sump

AND I'M SORRY I AGREE TAKING A HEAD PIPE ON AND OFF IDC IF ITS FOR A MIN IS WRONG ITS LIKE OK THIS ****ED IT UP QUICK PUT THE OLD PART ON.. LETS HAVE SOMEONE ELSE PAY FOR IT.
 

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Old Jan 31, 2019 | 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by RinTin
I agree, they did use to be more "lenient". But that said, there is a huge difference, between voiding out anything that touches or is affected by an aftermarket part vs voiding someones entire powertrain.
You really don't get it, do you? H-D got themselves in trouble for allowing their customers leniency in regard to mods and warranty. They were forced by the government to curb their leniency. How is that H-D's fault? They don't owe you, me, or anyone else an explanation. They have simply made a corporate decision to abide by laws that have existed for many, many years, and in doing so, avoiding future penalties from the EPA.

I will never understand why people remain so blind to the laws of the land. Are you going to tell me that some yokel removing his catalytic converter from his 1978 shitbox didn't know he was breaking Federal law? Give me a break.

If you mod it and it breaks, it's your problem. Simple rule-of-thumb. Common sense that's lost on most.
 
Old Jan 31, 2019 | 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Heatwave
Still here and not going anywhere. Never cheated on anyone or anything.
One of these statements is a blatant lie. Can you guess which one?

 
Old Jan 31, 2019 | 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Heatwave
Still here and not going anywhere. Never cheated on anyone or anything. Debt free. Pay all obligations on time or early. Comply with the terms of my agreements and expect others to do the same. Its America and any property I own is mine to do with as I please. NO ONE says what I can do... or not do.... with property I purchased with the fruits of my labor.

Harley and my dealer fulfilled their obligations on my bike and owe me nothing. I paid them in full and I owe them nothing. My views on sumping are primarily motivated by my desire to own a new Harley. But until there is clear and convincing evidence that Harley has taken the issue serious with a significant update to the M8 engine design to address sumping and fluid migration, I will not be purchasing another Harley.

My interest in this thread is to follow along as they make progress ... or not... in resolving these M8 issues that appear to be inherent to the design and are still problematic after 3 years of product production.
You did cheat HD you changed the head pipe and changed it back. regardless if it caused a problem or not BTW WHO DOES THAT JUST TO TRY IT
 
Old Jan 31, 2019 | 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by sandrooney
Justify it any way you want. You are the one that has to sleep with it.
I tried that with him. I explained in careful detail how what he did was fraud, and he just reframes things to be in his favor no matter what. In my opinion what he did was dishonest as hell, he destroyed evidence that would have let Harley uncover the truth, and he then conned Harley into replacing three engines (and the thousands, if not tens of thousands of dollars that it cost them). But no matter how thoroughly, carefully, and fact-based you explain it, Heatwave will always spin and twist it into where he's "the good guy" who "did everything right". He's seriously a Hillary Clinton type. You cannot ever get through to him, you can catch him red-handed in a bald-faced lie and he'll twist and squirm like a greased snake to make it look like he was saying the opposite all the time. And then he will call you every name in the book, a liar, a hater, a fanboy, any type of personal ad hominem attack he can think of.

Eventually I did the only sane thing I could do -- I put him on my ignore list. I encourage all of you to do the same. It's obvious at this point that he's actually thoroughly enjoying the textbook definition of trolling, and rule 1 of the internet is "don't feed the troll".

And Steve Cole? For trying to set the record straight and calling spades actual spades, I've made up my mind that I'm going with the TTS100 cam.
 
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Old Jan 31, 2019 | 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Heatwave


You can call it whatever you want. Once I own title to my property its mine to do with as I wish within the law. I can take my bike, strip it the frame, add parts, take parts off, have it sit in boxes in my garage if I want. Its my business what I do with my property after I’ve paid the manufactuer and signed the purchase agreement.

So long as its compliant to the terms of the warranty at the time a claim is made or at any time HD or the dealer are working on my bike than I have fulfilled ALL of my obligations. If you have a problem with that approach to owning property ... well, get over it because its my rights and no one elses.


Within the law? You clearly don't put much stock in the law, removing a catalytic converter from a road going motorcycle that was manufactured and certified with one.
You fulfilled your warranty obligations by NOT removing or tampering with emission control devises? Please.
 

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Old Jan 31, 2019 | 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by RinTin
Coming from a guy who has kept his bike stock, preached to others how you kept it stock and rides under 3.5K RPM, I kind of expected you'd be the first person to say exactly that, I almost posted those exact words as coming from MJ...

Now back on topic please! At least comment on the video, that is on topic!
It is half assed on topic...... as the video states it is a 2017 M8, and this thread was started for 2018's. But closeish, I'll give that too ya.
 



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