2018 M8----Sumping? Failures?
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Big Kahuna HDF Member
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From: Shit Weather USA
its absolutely personal attacks when you lie. I deleted some posts under the rules of the forum... so what? My warranty was NEVER voided... unlike all the guys that got screwed when they voided their warranty by installing the TTS tuner thinking they could uninstall it later.
I installed an aftermarket headpipe and returned the bike to factory after it was clear keeping the aftermarket headpipe would void the warranty. If you think that justifies a personal atack go for it my friend.
My bike was fully compliant at the time the engines sumped and all your lying wont change that fact. The only fact that matters to HD and any dealer is confirming the bike is warranty compliant at the time a claim is being made. What I do with my property outside of the dealership is solely my perogative. Neither you or any fanboy or even HD has any say what I do with my bike, so long as the bike is compliant to the warranty terms when a claim is made. Thats a legal fact and efforts by fanboyz and those more focused on making personal attacks and spreading lies will never change that.
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Those are the facts. Believe them or not. Makes no difference to me.
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From: State of Confusion
If your going to call anyone dishonest, I'd start with HD back in August of 2016 when they introduce the First M8 and neglected to tell customers about the EPA agreement and how the old "gray" rule of changing headpipes is no long a "gray area". The gray area around here use to be if the headpipe affected or causes engine damage, those components are not covered.
You would think a new rule that could affect your ENTIRE powertrain warranty (Engine, Transmission, and all attached) would be something they would at least put a sticker of some sort on the bike, or a red insert in the manual or require the dealer to disclose. But that wasn't the case and still isn't. In fact, I'll wager 70% of customers purchasing new bikes don't have a clue what the EPA agreement even is, and of that is 50% of HD sales people.
Now back on topic, I'd hate to be this guy, but as you can see, sumping is real and it's out there happening...
https://youtu.be/kYdDVBOf45U
You would think a new rule that could affect your ENTIRE powertrain warranty (Engine, Transmission, and all attached) would be something they would at least put a sticker of some sort on the bike, or a red insert in the manual or require the dealer to disclose. But that wasn't the case and still isn't. In fact, I'll wager 70% of customers purchasing new bikes don't have a clue what the EPA agreement even is, and of that is 50% of HD sales people.
Now back on topic, I'd hate to be this guy, but as you can see, sumping is real and it's out there happening...
https://youtu.be/kYdDVBOf45U
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From: Oz
it is and always has been carefully and legally explained in the Owners manual regarding limited factory powertrain warranty, which is a contract between the manufacturer and owner, not dealerships, not "the old "gray" rule of changing headpipes is no long a "gray area". The gray area around here use to be"..it's the owners responsibility to read their warranty coverage and if they don't understand it ask questions as instructed to..ignorance, naivety and lack of common sense are no excuse for altering or tampering with taking EPA emissions out of compliance
Now back on topic please! At least comment on the video, that is on topic!
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You can call it whatever you want. Once I own title to my property its mine to do with as I wish within the law. I can take my bike, strip it the frame, add parts, take parts off, have it sit in boxes in my garage if I want. Its my business what I do with my property after Ive paid the manufactuer and signed the purchase agreement.
So long as its compliant to the terms of the warranty at the time a claim is made or at any time HD or the dealer are working on my bike than I have fulfilled ALL of my obligations. If you have a problem with that approach to owning property ... well, get over it because its my rights and no one elses.
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From: Oz
Now back to topic please children.
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Coming from a guy who has kept his bike stock, preached to others how you kept it stock and rides under 3.5K RPM, I kind of expected you'd be the first person to say exactly that, I almost posted those exact words as coming from MJ...
Now back on topic please! At least comment on the video, that is on topic!
Now back on topic please! At least comment on the video, that is on topic!
my bike has been a dyno tuned Stage 1 for 2 years and in compliance and I ride it anyway I like anytime I like..I read my warranty and clearly understand it..some have lower levels of comprehension skills I guess
I keep wanting to ask you if you could possibly be any stupider but been afraid you'd take that as a challenge
Last edited by mjwebb; Jan 31, 2019 at 08:27 AM.