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Don't forget the ECM you modified and later replaced to make it look like you were still EPA compliant. You surely were in politics...
I mean we all know the ECM didn't make it sump, but if you're all trying set the record straight at least be honest. It's not personal attacks and lies if it's true. Your own words which are captured here forever...
I stand by every word I post...even when others attempt to lie with personal attacks. I didnt make my ECU look compliant, it WAS compliant. Both with the EPA and the MoCo. The facts are that the MoCo and my dealer confirmed my bike was compliant. If it wasnt, they would not have honored my warranty by replacing my engine 3 times as well as numerous other warranty claims they honored.
So feel free to lie with the personal attacks and false claims. What matters is that HD evaluated my bike and it was compliant.... and all warranty claims were honored. The rest is just noise by fanboyz that have either personal business at stake or simply want the truth about M8 defects kept quiet.
Guess what.... its too late. The marketplace is already making their judgement about the M8.
The facts are exactly what I stated, so there is no personal attack at all, just stating facts, are you going to try and deny it now? Remember you did not get rid of all the Internet records. You knew the warranty was voided prior, as it was discussed openly here on the internet with you before you went to FM and put the non HD parts on that you knew are illegal, both the FM tuning and the FM exhaust onto the bike. Your now trying to deny it speaks volumes as to who you really are! If it was all AOK, then why did you do what you did, in front of thousands of viewers and remove the illegal parts prior to turning in the warranty claims to HD? You knew dam well and good, if those parts were there, they would toss your a$$ right out the door. Not to mention all the time spent trying to remove all the internet posts by you with pictures and comments about how much better it ran with the new FM tuning and FM exhaust. What was funny was watching you trying to remove the posts after the fact so HD would not find out before you took it in. You got away with it at HD so be it, but don't try and deny it, as everyone knows better.
its absolutely personal attacks when you lie. I deleted some posts under the rules of the forum... so what? My warranty was NEVER voided... unlike all the guys that got screwed when they voided their warranty by installing the TTS tuner thinking they could uninstall it later.
I installed an aftermarket headpipe and returned the bike to factory after it was clear keeping the aftermarket headpipe would void the warranty. If you think that justifies a personal atack go for it my friend.
My bike was fully compliant at the time the engines sumped and all your lying won’t change that fact. The only fact that matters to HD and any dealer is confirming the bike is warranty compliant at the time a claim is being made. What I do with my property outside of the dealership is solely my perogative. Neither you or any fanboy or even HD has any say what I do with my bike, so long as the bike is compliant to the warranty terms when a claim is made. That’s a legal fact and efforts by fanboyz and those more focused on making personal attacks and spreading lies will never change that.
its absolutely personal attacks when you lie. I deleted some posts under the rules of the forum... so what? My warranty was NEVER voided... unlike all the guys that got screwed when they voided their warranty by installing the TTS tuner thinking they could uninstall it later.
I installed an aftermarket headpipe and returned the bike to factory after it was clear keeping the aftermarket headpipe would void the warranty. If you think that justifies a personal atack go for it my friend.
My bike was fully compliant at the time the engines sumped and all your lying wont change that fact. The only fact that matters to HD and any dealer is confirming the bike is warranty compliant at the time a claim is being made. What I do with my property outside of the dealership is solely my perogative. Neither you or any fanboy or even HD has any say what I do with my bike, so long as the bike is compliant to the warranty terms when a claim is made. Thats a legal fact and efforts by fanboyz and those more focused on making personal attacks and spreading lies will never change that.
Heatwave, Sorry, but returning your bike to factory compliant by removing the after market parts to get things covered under warranty is just plain dishonest. You knew the rules going in. I wouldn't believe a thing you say.
Heatwave, Sorry, but returning your bike to factory compliant by removing the after market parts to get things covered under warranty is just plain dishonest. You knew the rules going in. I wouldn't believe a thing you say.
If your going to call anyone dishonest, I'd start with HD back in August of 2016 when they introduce the First M8 and neglected to tell customers about the EPA agreement and how the old "gray" rule of changing headpipes is no long a "gray area". The gray area around here use to be if the headpipe affected or causes engine damage, those components are not covered.
You would think a new rule that could affect your ENTIRE powertrain warranty (Engine, Transmission, and all attached) would be something they would at least put a sticker of some sort on the bike, or a red insert in the manual or require the dealer to disclose. But that wasn't the case and still isn't. In fact, I'll wager 70% of customers purchasing new bikes don't have a clue what the EPA agreement even is, and of that is 50% of HD sales people.
Now back on topic, I'd hate to be this guy, but as you can see, sumping is real and it's out there happening...
Heatwave, Sorry, but returning your bike to factory compliant by removing the after market parts to get things covered under warranty is just plain dishonest. You knew the rules going in. I wouldn't believe a thing you say.
You can call it whatever you want. Once I own title to my property its mine to do with as I wish within the law. I can take my bike, strip it the frame, add parts, take parts off, have it sit in boxes in my garage if I want. Its my business what I do with my property after I’ve paid the manufactuer and signed the purchase agreement.
So long as its compliant to the terms of the warranty at the time a claim is made or at any time HD or the dealer are working on my bike than I have fulfilled ALL of my obligations. If you have a problem with that approach to owning property ... well, get over it because its my rights and no one elses.
Last edited by Heatwave; Jan 31, 2019 at 07:40 AM.
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