No spark
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My point being, most of us here are old enough to have watched much our manufacturing jobs leave to countries like China. While some called it "corporate greed" or blamed it on higher salaried American workers, our own gov't. was taxing our corporations at 35% (until 2017) while China taxed theirs at much lower rates. High and New Technology Enterprises are taxed at 15% and Software and Integrated Circuit (IC) companies are taxed at 10%. I used China as an example because that's the biggest elephant in the room.
Now you have a situation where you can buy the goods under a US brand name at $200 or buy it direct from AliExpress for $80 including shipping in a plain wrapper.
If nobody had outsourced, the world wouldn't be in such a mess, and "Made in the USA" would actually mean better quality...it does, but only when the goods are actually manufactured in the USA, like Ultima aren't...
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Just imagine if our own Gov't. would have treated our valuable skilled Manufacturing companies and their employees like the great assets that they were.
Plenty of the "greed" and "soulless" monikers to go around
Plenty of the "greed" and "soulless" monikers to go around
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I can remember when "made in Japan" meant junk, until it didn't.
Made in China is also changing. Made in America is going to be a question when
no one is interested in being in a trade or working with their hands.
What America does best is innovate. .We have these ideas and when they are developed,
we loose interest and let others manufacture them.
I heard the CEO of GE say "I loves globalization". The corporates sold us out and smiled.
He was at a jet engine facility in Brazil. The jets used to be built in Albuquerque.
Made in China is also changing. Made in America is going to be a question when
no one is interested in being in a trade or working with their hands.
What America does best is innovate. .We have these ideas and when they are developed,
we loose interest and let others manufacture them.
I heard the CEO of GE say "I loves globalization". The corporates sold us out and smiled.
He was at a jet engine facility in Brazil. The jets used to be built in Albuquerque.
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