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RE: Engine break-in time !
Well all that worrying about the weather here in south eastern PA was for not, snow 3 to 6” was happening in Cape May, NJ approx 60 to 75 air miles southeast of me didn’t happen here yesterday, what did happen was when I walk into the cycle shop I do business with, the guy sent out my rear exhaust pipe to get welded adding an extra 2” of pipe in the neck to clear the Baker 6 speed tranny, it didn’t come back yet, ahh what ? didn’t this guy have it for almost a week ? yeah he did, well ? he said at first he ran out of argon gas was getting it and it should be here Friday or today (saturday) I will call you “if” he brings it in today, but it won’t be until much later (10:00 opening) this guy loves to sleep in, he most likely was partying last nigh ! who is this AH I asked ? he’s a certified aircraft body welder ! and what does “if” mean ? then I am sorry cj,it will have to be tuesday (close on Mondays), tuesday ? does he have the freakin gas ? because if he doesn’t I will buy it and bring it over too him I said, that wasn’t going to happen with the look the dealer was giving me, seeing how I said it, seeing how he wasn’t going to tell me where is guy lives !
I was a little more than disappointed, I was pissed off, who is this AH drunk that can’t finish a freakin job of welding a piece of exhaust pipe together in a week, didn’t he know this holds up a lot of people ? me for one ! I kept hearing when I was walking out the store, sorry this, sorry that, I turn back and said look this isn’t your fault, this is an AH fault, are your sure I can’t goand deliverhim some argon gas ? with that, he knew I wasn’t mad at him.
Anyway on the way home I didn’t feel like poor me, but I was really, really disappointed ! nice weekend for breaking it in very cool maybe 40 deds today, then Easter Sunday light traffic day ! then today I read Chief Gator reply to my latest post, it really brought it home for me, this minor bs problem that I won’t have my ride on the road yesterday,was minor indeed, reading what this guy has to go through on a daily bases, loosing people he knows or didn’t know but are with him over there doing a life and death job to help us at home, and I was worrying about stupid bs stuff like an exhaust pipe !
Thanks Chief, I will be on it when I am on it, you take care of yourself so you can come home too your beautiful wife, family and friends and of course your ride.
cj
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From: Lake Jem FL (pop 35)
RE: Engine break-in time !
Well cj, I hope the weather clears for you and you get the pipes back soon.
Thanx for the well wishes. I am ok, and will be fine. I just need to tough it out a little longer and I can get the hell outta here.
el Jefe
Thanx for the well wishes. I am ok, and will be fine. I just need to tough it out a little longer and I can get the hell outta here.
el Jefe
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RE: Engine break-in time !
[quote]ORIGINAL: ChiefGator
Well cj, I hope the weather clears for you and you get the pipes back soon.
Thanx for the well wishes. I am ok, and will be fine. I just need to tough it out a little longer and I can get the hell outta here.
el Jefe
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Well cj, I hope the weather clears for you and you get the pipes back soon.
Thanx for the well wishes. I am ok, and will be fine. I just need to tough it out a little longer and I can get the hell outta here.
el Jefe
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"ChiefGator"
"Well cj, I hope the weather clears for you and you get the pipes back soon. Thanx for the well wishes. I am ok, and will be fine. I just need to tough it out a little longer and I can get the hell outta here. el Jefe "
:- )))) yeah, your ready to, not get home, but be home : - ))))
Good luck and God Speed…..and get back to us when you can !!!
cj
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Break-in ride
[align=left]ChiefGator [/align][align=left][/align][align=left]I hope all is well with you !!! [/align][align=left][/align][align=left]Well the rear exhaust pipe finally came back the day I said "get that f-ing pipe back to me I will find someone to do it" ! not the shops fault, anyway it fit perfect, all bolted up ready to go Saturday and great day for breaking the engine in, high of 56 geds, this well be a little long since I will tell how I did it, every step, I think we all know how it played on my mind breaking in this new S&S 93 ci shovelhead engine with synthetic oil, don’t get me wrong I really like synthetic and believe in it, there was no data I found having a new shovelhead engine broken in on it, let alone run synthetic, as I stated a post or two back what turn me in to a believer was a call to S&S, they told me as I stated,.we did testing with synthetic with our shovelhead engines along with all other engines we make, that was it, if they sent me 4 qts of Mobile V Twin synthetic oil 20-50 and giving me a two year un-limited mileage warranty, who am I or anyone else to question it, any non-believers out there, hay this is for S&S complete engine and not half rebuild or total kits to overhaul into a new engine, that you must take up with S&S. [/align][align=left][/align][align=left][/align][align=left][/align][align=left]I primed the engine with the synthetic oil their way "they don’t want air-bubbles" ! started it up, damn first thing I notice is the pumping, damn what a sound ! next was the Cycle Shack FL/FLH exhaust with mufflers not baffles in them, damn louder than my old F.U.B.A.R. double wall pipes ! I can’t believe the sound this motor is putting out, of course I knew it would sound a little different but this is not just putting in a new race cam in a stock motor ! it’s so deep sounding, just pounding, but not all pipe noise ! so frenkin pumping ! [/align][align=left][/align][align=left][/align][align=left]As you know the gas in the tank is Shell premium without any "10 % ethanol corn crap in it" I mention this awhile back I drove 60 miles round trip for 7 gals to the next county for it, no way I was breaking in this motor with junk ! [/align][align=left][/align][align=left][/align][align=left]I put it in neutral a little hard to do ! damn I didn’t take enough off the clutch plates ! the new packs, I run a Rivera Pro clutch and put a new set in, as with the first set I had to file the cut outs of the plates to fit right on the hub, I guess I didn’t file enough, damn, well see if I will be lucky and simple working the clutch will correct this, if not it’s take out the plate and re-file them, damn ! [/align][align=left][/align][align=left][/align][align=left][color=#0000cc]I took off mid-morning yesterday had the route planned 50 mile run, first 10 miles out stop at a diner this baby is going to cool down ! I looked at the oil pressure gauge it’s at idle 20 PSI ! damn with the old engine I have to be doing 55 MPH ! I next look at my oil temp gage in the oil tank, holy crap it’s only 150 degs ? what the hell is going on ! this is a new engine it’s got to run hotter than this ! I took IR temp readings on the heads F-350 R-340 degs, I thought it would be a little hotter but that is it ! I remember I didn’t bring my oil cooler cover, damn ! as I went into the dinner for a take out coffee coming out I just I got to cover this thing up, so I took a cigar (cheap cigars box : ) cut it open and tape it over the front of the cooler, ok better than nothing, (see pic) its approx
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From: Lake Jem FL (pop 35)
RE: Break-in ride
[align=left]ChiefGator [/align][align=left][/align][align=left]I hope all is well with you !!! [/align][align=left][/align][align=left]Things are going well, just a few days left. I am all packed and just about turned over to my relief. Because he was already here, I did not get caught up in the troop extension that everyone else got caught in. If he had been two weeks later, I would be here another three months...[/align][align=left][/align][align=left][/align][align=left][/align][align=left]next was the Cycle Shack FL/FLH exhaust with mufflers not baffles in them, damn louder than my old F.U.B.A.R. double wall pipes ! I can’t believe the sound this motor is putting out, of course I knew it would sound a little different but this is not just putting in a new race cam in a stock motor ! it’s so deep sounding, just pounding, but not all pipe noise ! so frenkin pumping ! [/align][align=left][/align][align=left]I absolutely LOVE the deep, throaty sound that the S&S pumps out. I was able to use my old pipes, so there was that constant. I know it is the motor that canged the sound and not just the pipes. [/align][align=left][/align][align=left]As you know the gas in the tank is Shell premium without any "10 % ethanol corn crap in it" I mention this awhile back I drove 60 miles round trip for 7 gals to the next county for it, no way I was breaking in this motor with junk ! [/align][align=left][/align][align=left]Have I ever mentioned how much I hate ethenol???[/align][align=left][/align][align=left]I put it in neutral a little hard to do ! damn I didn’t take enough off the clutch plates ! the new packs, I run a Rivera Pro clutch and put a new set in, as with the first set I had to file the cut outs of the plates to fit right on the hub, I guess I didn’t file enough, damn, well see if I will be lucky and simple working the clutch will correct this, if not it’s take out the plate and re-file them, damn ! [/align][align=left][/align][align=left]That bites, but at least you know what is causing it... and not a hard fix.[/align][align=left][/align][align=left]I took off mid-morning yesterday had the route planned 50 mile run, first 10 miles out stop at a diner this baby is going to cool down ! I looked at the oil pressure gauge it’s at idle 20 PSI I told ya... 
[/align][align=left][/align][align=left]! damn with the old engine I have to be doing 55 MPH ! I next look at my oil temp gage in the oil tank, holy crap it’s only 150 degs ? what the hell is going on ! this is a new engine it’s got to run hotter than this ! I took IR temp readings on the heads F-350 R-340 degs, I thought it would be a little hotter but that is it ! DAMN, look at cj using all the high-tech new fangaled gear! I remember I didn’t bring my oil cooler cover, damn ! as I went into the dinner for a take out coffee coming out I just I got to cover this thing up, so I took a cigar (cheap cigars box : ) cut it open and tape it over the front of the cooler, ok better than nothing, (see pic) its approx 50 degs air temp sunny. OK, that is more like it, Shovels need cigar boxes and baling wire [/align][align=left][/align][align=left][color=#0000cc]With that I headed home a few miles, total miles for first run 53 miles, dump the oil at 150 degs, hay where is all the metal flakes ?? (see pic) I put a flash li
[/align][align=left][/align][align=left]! damn with the old engine I have to be doing 55 MPH ! I next look at my oil temp gage in the oil tank, holy crap it’s only 150 degs ? what the hell is going on ! this is a new engine it’s got to run hotter than this ! I took IR temp readings on the heads F-350 R-340 degs, I thought it would be a little hotter but that is it ! DAMN, look at cj using all the high-tech new fangaled gear! I remember I didn’t bring my oil cooler cover, damn ! as I went into the dinner for a take out coffee coming out I just I got to cover this thing up, so I took a cigar (cheap cigars box : ) cut it open and tape it over the front of the cooler, ok better than nothing, (see pic) its approx 50 degs air temp sunny. OK, that is more like it, Shovels need cigar boxes and baling wire [/align][align=left][/align][align=left][color=#0000cc]With that I headed home a few miles, total miles for first run 53 miles, dump the oil at 150 degs, hay where is all the metal flakes ?? (see pic) I put a flash li
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RE: Break-in ride
ChiefGator
(cj)
(I hope all is well with you !!!)
“Chief”
“ Things are going well, just a few days left. I am all packed and just about turned over to my relief. Because he was already here, I did not get caught up in the troop extension that everyone else got caught in. If he had been two weeks later, I would be here another three months..”
A few days more and packed up !!!! nice, real nice ! another 3 MONTHS !!!! man someone is looking over you Chief !!
(cj)
(. next was the Cycle Shack FL/FLH exhaust with mufflers not baffles in them, damn louder than my old F.U.B.A.R. double wall pipes ! I cant believe the sound this motor is putting out, of course I knew it would sound a little different but this is not just putting in a new race cam in a stock motor ! its so deep sounding, just pounding, but not all pipe noise ! so frenkin pumping !)
“Chief”
“ I absolutely LOVE the deep, throaty sound that the S&S pumps out. I was able to use my old pipes, so there was that constant. I know it is the motor that canged the sound and not just the pipes.”
The best thing I learn “after the first fifty” was listening to the idle after changing the oil and filter, just listening to the oil say fill all the gaps : - ) [/b]about a minute into it, I notice it, all the noise and things in a stock hd shovel motor are missing ! that’s because S&S turned this engine is the latest with all the close tolerances, better metals, better engineering, that is whats missing, the noise ! no wonder the guys at the shop said when they heard it, it sounds like a hop-up twin cam without the chain ! those motors are done with the same kind of engineering. It’s amazing what you can pick up, by the silence inside the engine !
(cj)
(As you know the gas in the tank is Shell premium without any "10 % ethanol corn crap in it" I mention this awhile back I drove 60 miles round trip for 7 gals to the next county for it, no way I was breaking in this motor with junk !)
“Chief”
“ Have I ever mentioned how much I hate ethenol???”
: - )))))))))))))))))))))) I knew that !!!
(cj)
[font="times new roman"][size=3]( I put it in neutral a little hard to do ! damn I didnt take enough off the clutch plates ! the new packs, I run a Rivera Pro clutch and put a new set in, as with the first set I had to file the cut outs of the plates to fit right on the hub,
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From: Lake Jem FL (pop 35)
RE: Break-in ride
whats all that salad all over your chest and arms ?
Well, each ribbon is only 50 cents at the PX... you can just buy whatever you want....I just figured I would load up with lots of color....................
Well, each ribbon is only 50 cents at the PX... you can just buy whatever you want....I just figured I would load up with lots of color....................
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RE: Break-in ride
ORIGINAL: ChiefGator
whats all that salad all over your chest and arms ?
Well, each ribbon is only 50 cents at the PX... you can just buy whatever you want....I just figured I would load up with lots of color....................
whats all that salad all over your chest and arms ?
Well, each ribbon is only 50 cents at the PX... you can just buy whatever you want....I just figured I would load up with lots of color....................
ChiefGator
Sorry I tried to post this yesterday (tues) but couldn’t get on the web site ! maybe they had problems ?
(cj)
(whats all that salad all over your chest and arms ?)
"ChiefGator"
"Well, each ribbon is only 50 cents at the PX... you can just buy whatever you want....I just figured I would load up with lots of color.................... "
That’s bullcrap ! : - ) you earn everyone of them, chief ! and hay you didn't include " : - ) " smiley face I put on the end of that ! thats is important, that states I am kidding with the last statament !
You take care of yourself, before you know it you will be in that Florida Sun shine with your wife, family, friends and ride : - )))
cj
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From: Lake Jem FL (pop 35)
RE: Break-in ride
Oh I knew you were kidding just as you knew I was [8D]
The scary thing is that in that pic I am short a few rows. You didn't know you were chatting withChesty Puller all this time, now did ya?
I just got my flight confirmation. Fly outta here Sat morning, will be in Kuwait about a week, then home around the 26th. I am not sure what the internet connection will be like when I am in Kuwait, so you may not hear from me for a while.
Have a good one and keep your rubber side down,
Bo
The scary thing is that in that pic I am short a few rows. You didn't know you were chatting withChesty Puller all this time, now did ya?
I just got my flight confirmation. Fly outta here Sat morning, will be in Kuwait about a week, then home around the 26th. I am not sure what the internet connection will be like when I am in Kuwait, so you may not hear from me for a while.
Have a good one and keep your rubber side down,
Bo
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RE: Break-in ride
“ChiefGator”
“Oh I knew you were kidding just as you knew I was The scary thing is that in that pic I am short a few rows.”
Chief, get them, ! you put in the time ! put them on ! that uniform look great !
“You didn't know you were chatting with Chesty Puller all this time, now did ya?”
Chief don’t even kid around like that !!!, ahhh you are kidding right Chief ? : - ))))))))))))))))))))))))))
“ I just got my flight confirmation. Fly outta here Sat morning, will be in Kuwait about a week, then home around the 26th. I am not sure what the internet connection will be like when I am in Kuwait, so you may not hear from me for a while.”
That is the greatest news !!!! I understand about the connection, just get your butt to FLA !!
“Have a good one and keep your rubber side down, Bo”
You take care yourself Chief, I hope when you touch down in Kuwait, that time goes as fast as light-speed ! this country owes the men and women over there more that we can ever pay, this debt can never be fully paid !
cj
“Oh I knew you were kidding just as you knew I was The scary thing is that in that pic I am short a few rows.”
Chief, get them, ! you put in the time ! put them on ! that uniform look great !
“You didn't know you were chatting with Chesty Puller all this time, now did ya?”
Chief don’t even kid around like that !!!, ahhh you are kidding right Chief ? : - ))))))))))))))))))))))))))
“ I just got my flight confirmation. Fly outta here Sat morning, will be in Kuwait about a week, then home around the 26th. I am not sure what the internet connection will be like when I am in Kuwait, so you may not hear from me for a while.”
That is the greatest news !!!! I understand about the connection, just get your butt to FLA !!
“Have a good one and keep your rubber side down, Bo”
You take care yourself Chief, I hope when you touch down in Kuwait, that time goes as fast as light-speed ! this country owes the men and women over there more that we can ever pay, this debt can never be fully paid !
cj