Breakout wheel change problems
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Don't give up on it dude. If everything with the spacers is correct than it HAS to be something with the bearings man.
Do you still have the stock rear wheel? If you do still have it what I would do is keep all the spacers you are using with the cvo wheel and put the stock wheel on the bike. If there is not issues then you know it's something with the cvo wheel's hub or the bearings you have installed in the cvo wheel.
Those wheels are bad *** dude, I wouldn't give up on it. it'll be rewarding once you figure out what the hell the issue is.
And we are dying to know what's going on too. Lol
Do you still have the stock rear wheel? If you do still have it what I would do is keep all the spacers you are using with the cvo wheel and put the stock wheel on the bike. If there is not issues then you know it's something with the cvo wheel's hub or the bearings you have installed in the cvo wheel.
Those wheels are bad *** dude, I wouldn't give up on it. it'll be rewarding once you figure out what the hell the issue is.
And we are dying to know what's going on too. Lol
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Cruiser
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From: MA
Don't give up on it dude. If everything with the spacers is correct than it HAS to be something with the bearings man.
Do you still have the stock rear wheel? If you do still have it what I would do is keep all the spacers you are using with the cvo wheel and put the stock wheel on the bike. If there is not issues then you know it's something with the cvo wheel's hub or the bearings you have installed in the cvo wheel.
Those wheels are bad *** dude, I wouldn't give up on it. it'll be rewarding once you figure out what the hell the issue is.
And we are dying to know what's going on too. Lol
Do you still have the stock rear wheel? If you do still have it what I would do is keep all the spacers you are using with the cvo wheel and put the stock wheel on the bike. If there is not issues then you know it's something with the cvo wheel's hub or the bearings you have installed in the cvo wheel.
Those wheels are bad *** dude, I wouldn't give up on it. it'll be rewarding once you figure out what the hell the issue is.
And we are dying to know what's going on too. Lol
Exactly what I was thinking of as this came in. I'm calling my local dealer right after this to see if they have the bearing puller/installer. I'm sick of depending on people. You never know what they do. The reason I did them twice is because the first guy put them in dry to my hub. And they weren't spinning easy. They had a bump to them(he probably put in with a hammer and socket!!). Buying puller, two new bearing and doing myself. After I measure everything tonight and put the old rim back on.
Bury the rotor side and then just touch the inside spacer on sprocket side, right???
Last edited by wedgemoose; Jun 9, 2015 at 02:36 PM.
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Is the rim backwards? Can the pulley and brake rotor be swapped to the opposite sides?
It's been a while since I looked at my Softail rear wheel that closely. Even still, I can't offer much comparison as I don't have the Breakout wheels.
Something looks off...It looks like the caliper mount should be drawn into that recess on the swingarm, whereas the picture you show looks to be 1/8" away from the swingarm.
It's been a while since I looked at my Softail rear wheel that closely. Even still, I can't offer much comparison as I don't have the Breakout wheels.
Something looks off...It looks like the caliper mount should be drawn into that recess on the swingarm, whereas the picture you show looks to be 1/8" away from the swingarm.
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Is the rim backwards? Can the pulley and brake rotor be swapped to the opposite sides?
It's been a while since I looked at my Softail rear wheel that closely. Even still, I can't offer much comparison as I don't have the Breakout wheels.
Something looks off...It looks like the caliper mount should be drawn into that recess on the swingarm, whereas the picture you show looks to be 1/8" away from the swing arm.
It's been a while since I looked at my Softail rear wheel that closely. Even still, I can't offer much comparison as I don't have the Breakout wheels.
Something looks off...It looks like the caliper mount should be drawn into that recess on the swingarm, whereas the picture you show looks to be 1/8" away from the swing arm.
I don't think it could be swapped Red. But you never know. I never thought about that. So I'll check. The Caliper mount I think is correct though. It slides onto flat stock with a rubber bushing in the groove. once tightened up again the swing arm that is where is sits. But still thanks and I'll check both just in case.
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Exactly what I was thinking of as this came in. I'm calling my local dealer right after this to see if they have the bearing puller/installer. I'm sick of depending on people. You never know what they do. The reason I did them twice is because the first guy put them in dry to my hub. And they weren't spinning easy. They had a bump to them(he probably put in with a hammer and socket!!). Buying puller, two new bearing and doing myself. After I measure everything tonight and put the old rim back on.
Bury the rotor side and then just touch the inside spacer on s[pr]ocket side, right???
Bury the rotor side and then just touch the inside spacer on s[pr]ocket side, right???
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Yes, the bearing on the brake rotor side must go all the way home, and the rest as you say.
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ok i'm home and looked the only thing that jumped out to me right away was the lines on the spacers. the left (sprocket side one) goes outboard towards the swingarm. the right one between the wheel and rotor bracket mine is opposite of yours. the lines on it are toward the wheel. ( i could have installed it backwards myself but i was very careful to put it on the way i took it off when i changed my rear tire. maybe one end of that spacer is slightly tapered. i have a bunch of pics for you. pm me your email addy and i'll fire em off to you.
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Again thanks everyone for helping. I've never seen this many people helping me before in my life. You guys are the best.
I had to take a little break last night. I got my original rim back from the person I gave it to. Did all my measuring. Everything measure perfect. Took off the sprocket and rotors and put on a bench to see if they all were same height or measurement. Everything is exact. I measured bearing to bearing and they are both 8-3/4. BUT!!! I'm looking for possibility of millimeters off here. So maybe they aren't as exact as I think. It's hard to measure rims I found out last night. Can only use the Caliper's for certain things to measure. The rest has to be done with tape measure and eyes.
I have come down to two conclusions. One, is my new bearings are bad. Even though when I fingered them last night and they seem perfect. So I ordered the puller and will put those in of Friday(when it arrives hopefully). Or second, the wheel needs to move slightly towards the right side. Talking millimeters. But even if this is the case it would be the belt rubbing against the swing arm. But I don't think that is belt noise? Can anyone tell me if my sound file could be a belt rubbing sound? I've never heard belt rubbing sound and have no idea what it should sound like.
I'll let you all know once I figure this stupid thing out. Thanks a million all of you.
P.S. Instead of being lazy like last night I'm going to put the old rim on tonight and take measurement from the frame(Swing arm) to components(rotor, Sprocket, Belt clearance, Caliper bracket, etc.)
I had to take a little break last night. I got my original rim back from the person I gave it to. Did all my measuring. Everything measure perfect. Took off the sprocket and rotors and put on a bench to see if they all were same height or measurement. Everything is exact. I measured bearing to bearing and they are both 8-3/4. BUT!!! I'm looking for possibility of millimeters off here. So maybe they aren't as exact as I think. It's hard to measure rims I found out last night. Can only use the Caliper's for certain things to measure. The rest has to be done with tape measure and eyes.
I have come down to two conclusions. One, is my new bearings are bad. Even though when I fingered them last night and they seem perfect. So I ordered the puller and will put those in of Friday(when it arrives hopefully). Or second, the wheel needs to move slightly towards the right side. Talking millimeters. But even if this is the case it would be the belt rubbing against the swing arm. But I don't think that is belt noise? Can anyone tell me if my sound file could be a belt rubbing sound? I've never heard belt rubbing sound and have no idea what it should sound like.
I'll let you all know once I figure this stupid thing out. Thanks a million all of you.
P.S. Instead of being lazy like last night I'm going to put the old rim on tonight and take measurement from the frame(Swing arm) to components(rotor, Sprocket, Belt clearance, Caliper bracket, etc.)
Road Warrior
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From: Louisville, KY
Your bearings should be metric [25x52x15 mm] - maybe I'm reading this wrong - what were your measurements?
That would be the case if the right side bearing wasn't installed first and its not all the way home.
That would be the case if the right side bearing wasn't installed first and its not all the way home.
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Cruiser
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From: MA
I'm sorry. I meant I measured the old rim with the bearing in it. I went through them and measured from the right side bearing to the left side bearing to see if my new rims had the same measurement. And they did.
I also measured the distance from each side bearing to the lip of the rim(distance the bearing was set in the housing). And my new rim matched it perfect. Telling me he installed them correctly.
But again you never know. So at least when I put the new ones in we will know they are correct.
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From: north jersey
I'm looking forward to hearing how you make out tonight by installing the old rim on the bike. Make sure you use the wheel spacers when you install the old wheel in exactly the same way you are using them with the CVO wheel.
I would even go through the trouble of installing on the old wheel the sprocket and brake rotor that you are using on the CVO wheel.
Good luck dude.
I would even go through the trouble of installing on the old wheel the sprocket and brake rotor that you are using on the CVO wheel.
Good luck dude.