Help!!!! I am going crazy. I spent thousands on CVO chrome rims for my 2013 Breakout. Put them on and now have a bad noise. It sounds like brakes or something else rubbing but it isn't. I took the caliper off and could still hear the noise. I put two sets of bearing in to be sure it wasn't those. My belt doesn't look like it rubbing but it's very close to the frame when I check. I'm wondering if this isn't a direct fit? Maybe I need to do something with the spacers(get different ones or something). I DON'T have the anti lock breaks and all the CVO's do. But I would think my stock spacer on the brake side would equal the ABS spacer size? But maybe not? Maybe the CVO with ABS is different? I can't find anything online with anybody that did the conversion. I've seen a bunch in dealerships with this conversion but they were all ABS set ups.




Does anyone know if my spacer should be the same length as the ABS sensor? I don't want to have to buy one to find out. I would think they were exactly the same(the Breakout and CVO Breakout) back there. But maybe not?


I have tried adjusting and aligning a thousand times. Maybe it's the belt hitting when it flexes? But the sound is more like a metal sound. Like when your breaks scrap against a rotor but not quit that sound. And its not 100% when the wheel turns. It's at a point. like when the wheel rotates one revolution it makes a sound at a point. When driving down the road at any speed it's a thump, thump, thump. Like the rotor is hitting the caliper bracket. But it isn't. Maybe a belt sound? But don't know what that sounds like either. I know this won't help but it's like a "urppp" sound


Wondering if anybody has done this before? And if they ran into problems like I'm having. Or if they know I need to get a different spacer or the ABS sensor and cut the wire(use as a dummy spacer). I attached a sound file.


Any help is appreciated. thanks. Maybe someone has had this sound before and can point me the correct direction.

 

Sorry about the problem. I agree it sounds like metal rubbing.


You seem to be focused on the rear, are you sure it's not the front (assuming you changed both wheels)?

 

How easily do the wheels spin by hand with the bike in the air?

 

from the info i was looking at when my buddy did a wheel on his street glide, i believe the bearings are different on the abs bikes. you should be using the stock non abs bearings from a regular BO on the CVO wheels, then everything should be kosher.

 

The rotor will rub on the calliper mount, even if the calliper is removed, if things aren't aligned.

The bearing is different on the ABS versions.
Drag Specialties Sealed Wheel Bearings w/ABS Encoder - 0215-0964

If you use your spacers and non-ABS bearings, then it should line up fine.

Make sure that the bearing on the brake rotor side is correct (ABS bearing is wider) and inserted all the way home (the bearing on the other side doesn't go all the way home, and stops against the spacer).

I encountered this when I installed the BO wheel (ABS) on the front of my NT.
https://www.hdforums.com/forum/softa...t-train-6.html

Bearing with ABS encoder: 25x52x18 mm
Standard bearing: 25x52x15 mm

 

I have cvo breakout wheels on my rocker. My rocker is not abs, li don't know if abs bearings are different than non abs.

You should have been able to re-use the wheel spacers you had already on the bike. The wheel spacers are different for abs and non abs bikes. Wheel spacers for Abs bikes are different width because you have to leave room in there for the abs sensor. Non abs obviously don't have the sensor so the spacers are different width.

Your post was a little confusing but it Sounds like you might have wrong spacers

by the way, I didn't know the chrome cvo breakout wheels where selling for thousands.

 

Ha. It was thousands. Rims, tires, rotors, sprocket, chrome belt guards, bearings, axles, pads etc. It was almost four thousand!!!!

Yes its the rear. On jack. Tested both for days. Sounds like center of hub.but sound travels and hard to pin point. Put in two sets of bearings to be sure. Its weird. Played with it tonight for hours. I've pulled the wheel off at least 20 times. I have it so aligned its perfect. I've tried and looked at everything so many times its ridiculous. Gonna give up and put old rims on. Thanks for reply

Easy. Like it's supposed to. Sounds like bad bearing noise but no restrictions . just normal belt and brake pad resistance.

Thanks


I'm almost positive bearings are the same. Just the abs has something in them for sensor to read. But same diameter. I've put both in. Abs and non abs bearings. Both make the noise

Thanks

 

the diameter is the same but the thickness (think from side to side) i believe is different.

i know it sounds silly but do you have all the spacers in the correct locations and in the correct orientation?

 

Nope, they're different width.

Bearing with ABS encoder: 25x52x18 mm
Standard bearing: 25x52x15 mm

https://www.hdforums.com/forum/touri...bearing-2.html

 

That's what I meant was thickness is the same. I don't know why I said diameter. But again I though they were exact same. But back then didn't plan on problem so didn't measure with Mic's or anything(like I am now). And its not silly to ask about spacer orientation. Checked and looked a thousand times. I even have cvo parts book that shows how they go. Plus they can only go on one way. When I say I've had this on and off 60 times I'm not exaggerating. Been down for two weeks. Every night come home and try different things. Even put old spacers in with cvo rims just to try. The cvo rims have a fancy chrome spacer for belt side. I replaced with my stock spacer to test. Didn't help. Only thing I can think of two bad sets of bearings. Or the people that pressed them in screwed up. But one was good dealer and other guy is s harley pro. Dyno guy and genius. Famous out here. Jim's of Putnam.. So I doubt it. It has to be something stupid. Gonna put old ones back on and see what happens. Funny thing is the front is perfect. And its the same thing. Used my spacer in place where cvo would use an ABS spacer. So why did the front work? My belt is real close to swingarm though. Like a 1\16th of clearance. Anyone know if that is right?. I'll takes some pics maybe.

Thanks all


Just saw this. I have non abs ones in now. I think the first time they were abs bearings but can't remember which ones I ordered way back. Took a while to get everything. Over a year! But I used non abs and rotor fits in caliper bracket perfect . not hitting or scraping it. Sounf is from sprocket side. Sounds like coming from hub behind sprocket.

Thanks again. I was just wondering what belt rubbing sounded like. Never heard it before. Wondering if my attachment could be belt hitting swing arm. It is real close. And don't remember where it was before all this.