2018 uhh...
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Joined: Sep 2017
Posts: 132
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From: Australia
Wow...........just wow, the M8 is the greatest motor that ever came out of Milwaukee & the Twin Cam as a certain Australian jack tard says is just an irrelevant turd - LOL
Who really gives a ****.........? the M8 114 is not all that, I just rode over the weekend as here in PA it finally got nice - guess what? yep in our group there was a heritage 114, nice looking bike - but its not like this 114 DESTROYS the 103, not by a long shot!
The one thing I noticed with mine beside it was the floor boards are up higher - thus helping with the lean angle no doubt, with all the add ons put on the bike it might have been 30-40 pounds lighter at best so the guys preaching its a 100 pounds lighter haven't put the crash bars on, actual passenger floor boards, a back rest or trunk, etc.
I would say the rider of that 114 was as seasoned as I - in the straight aways he had me by maybe a bike length - strangely enough in the turns I took him (afterwards he did mention the stock rear tire seemed to kick out) maybe a harder tire with less grip, roll on at 60 is not impressive - yes he left me but I caught him - I didn't pass him but was right at the door the whole time.
My conclusion as both he & I were curious about the new vs the old is this, the new heritage handles well as I watched him negotiate the bike & it did seem effortless - I experienced the same when test riding it, comparatively its a little more boxed in than the pre 18 models, knees seem higher & anyone at 6 ft / 6`1 would feel cramped.
Power wise the new bike had me!!!! I hate to admit that but you only as good as what you ride - HOWEVER!!!!! it did not & I repeat - did not out perform the TC to a point that would justify its purchase or giving up what I have for a new Heritage, Yes the 114 is faster, more torque & has the edge but not by that much that it warrants buying it.
I believe with some minor work on the 103 it would be right there with the new offering, But honestly - as long as I can do 80 - 90mph I'm good, I'm not 25 anymore, Now I like to enjoy the ride.
good luck to what ever you choose & ride safe!
Who really gives a ****.........? the M8 114 is not all that, I just rode over the weekend as here in PA it finally got nice - guess what? yep in our group there was a heritage 114, nice looking bike - but its not like this 114 DESTROYS the 103, not by a long shot!
The one thing I noticed with mine beside it was the floor boards are up higher - thus helping with the lean angle no doubt, with all the add ons put on the bike it might have been 30-40 pounds lighter at best so the guys preaching its a 100 pounds lighter haven't put the crash bars on, actual passenger floor boards, a back rest or trunk, etc.
I would say the rider of that 114 was as seasoned as I - in the straight aways he had me by maybe a bike length - strangely enough in the turns I took him (afterwards he did mention the stock rear tire seemed to kick out) maybe a harder tire with less grip, roll on at 60 is not impressive - yes he left me but I caught him - I didn't pass him but was right at the door the whole time.
My conclusion as both he & I were curious about the new vs the old is this, the new heritage handles well as I watched him negotiate the bike & it did seem effortless - I experienced the same when test riding it, comparatively its a little more boxed in than the pre 18 models, knees seem higher & anyone at 6 ft / 6`1 would feel cramped.
Power wise the new bike had me!!!! I hate to admit that but you only as good as what you ride - HOWEVER!!!!! it did not & I repeat - did not out perform the TC to a point that would justify its purchase or giving up what I have for a new Heritage, Yes the 114 is faster, more torque & has the edge but not by that much that it warrants buying it.
I believe with some minor work on the 103 it would be right there with the new offering, But honestly - as long as I can do 80 - 90mph I'm good, I'm not 25 anymore, Now I like to enjoy the ride.
good luck to what ever you choose & ride safe!
Also glad that, like us new M8 owners, you agree that the new bike is better in every aspect.
Thanks mate.
Road Master
Joined: Nov 2014
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From: Alabama
My current twinkie will do just fine until the suckers buying new have eaten that dealer upcharge and resell them.
Great thing about HD's, there are always garage queens out there to be had.
With a little patience, you can have an M8 and a Twinkie for the price of one new bike.
You blow your wad on a shiny new M8. I'm shopping rockers right now. In about three years I'll buy an M8. By then I'll have an Evo, Twinkie, and an M8 before you've got that one paid off.
Last edited by TeaRunner; Apr 22, 2018 at 08:18 PM.
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Joined: Sep 2017
Posts: 132
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From: Australia
You're right, I won't have one... yet.
My current twinkie will do just fine until the suckers buying new have eaten that dealer upcharge and resell them.
Great thing about HD's, there are always garage queens out there to be had.
With a little patience, you can have an M8 and a Twinkie for the price of one new bike.
You blow your wad on a shiny new M8. I'm shopping rockers right now. In about three years I'll buy an M8. By then I'll have an Evo, Twinkie, and an M8 before you've got that one paid off.
My current twinkie will do just fine until the suckers buying new have eaten that dealer upcharge and resell them.
Great thing about HD's, there are always garage queens out there to be had.
With a little patience, you can have an M8 and a Twinkie for the price of one new bike.
You blow your wad on a shiny new M8. I'm shopping rockers right now. In about three years I'll buy an M8. By then I'll have an Evo, Twinkie, and an M8 before you've got that one paid off.
Plus why buy a used one with someone else's potentially caused problems?
To me that is being a sucker.
And once you have the M8, why keep the the outdated bike/s, you won't want to ride them anymore?
Intermediate
Joined: Apr 2018
Posts: 29
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From: Saugus MA
The 2018 lineup to me is an embarrassment. This is my opinion and Im old, I was raised in the 60s and 70s when the only one that had a Harley was usually in the hells angels and you better steer clear. These bikes to me look so stupid and so far off from what I got into Harleys for in the first place its ridiculous. Even HDs website shows kids riding around and tackling each other. This will be the last Harley I ever own, I got a 2008 fxstc because theyve at least got an old school look, these and the springers. How sad they sold out like this. They basically sold out their current clientele, disregarding what anyone thinks to try to capture the new crowd. What a bunch of douchebags.
So what i got out of this. You started riding Harley's to make it look like you were some gangster 1%-er. That's like someone getting pissed at cadillac for leaving the 70s-80s styling, because it made you feel like you were in the Mafia.
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From: Australia
*Disclaimer - you will look back often to see where all the old models disappeared to
**Disclaimer - just a joke, before some take it personally
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Street Bob style, restept(respect) JK !
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Joined: Sep 2017
Posts: 132
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From: Australia
The 2018 lineup to me is an embarrassment. This is my opinion and Im old, I was raised in the 60s and 70s when the only one that had a Harley was usually in the hells angels and you better steer clear. These bikes to me look so stupid and so far off from what I got into Harleys for in the first place its ridiculous. Even HDs website shows kids riding around and tackling each other. This will be the last Harley I ever own, I got a 2008 fxstc because theyve at least got an old school look, these and the springers. How sad they sold out like this. They basically sold out their current clientele, disregarding what anyone thinks to try to capture the new crowd. What a bunch of douchebags.
Ever since I got the new M8 Street Bob, I've had little old ladies at the shops say what a nice bike it is, school kids waving to me and drivers at the stoplights striking up a conversation asking about the new bike.
But dammit I want them to be scared of me!! I want to be a big bad biker, a Hell's Angel wannabe! They should steer clear of me, I ride a Harley, and that means I'm a scary ****!
That's it, I need to get rid of the bike now
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Joined: Apr 2014
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From: UK
The Twin Cam had it's issues to be sure but nothing that a few good quality bearings and a tune wouldn't cure. Can you say the same about your "beast" and it's issues? Some of your fellow M8'ers are on their 2nd and 3rd motors. I don't recall many, if any, Twin Cam owners having to do that on such a frequent and repetitive basis.