Tuner Beware!
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I was going to post the same link, but I seriously thought Pitbull_Dallas was joking.....
I know the MoCo has tried to keep anything negative about the M8 engine under wraps (Consent decree, sumping, trans oil transfer), I just didn't know they were doing such a good job of it...!!
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Well it nothing else we agree that CA sucks.... Just to add my .02, I was ordering slip on mufflers for my CVO Springer on line and it popped up that they couldn't ship them to CA.. So even some of the aftermarket companies are getting in on the gig....or at least being effected by it..
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Please note: The consent decree only obliges HD to report the number of bikes whose power train warranty was voided, because an after-market tuner was used.
This does not extent to a) after the warranty period and b) other after-market products like exhaust pipes, cams, ...
Of course this doesn't mean that HD could not void your warranty for other after market products, but this has nothing to to with the consent decree.
Why should HD report anything beyond what they have to to the EPA? While I see how this whole agreement is geared in advantage of HD and against other after-market manufacturers, I am pretty sure they do not want to **** off their clients for no reason or benefit, by reporting to the EPA beyond what is required.
Back to the OP's problem: I can simply not understand the dealer's scare story that the bike may become un-registerable at some point. First, there is absolutely ZERO indication that any laws or regulations to this end is being even thought of. Secondly, while I am sure environmental protection has much power in the US, consumer protection is still stronger: You can essentially revert the bike at no cost to factory setting (speaking of the tune only, i.e. what got it "flagged" with HD), so how would a lawmaker argue that such bikes had to go out of circulation (at the cost of the consumer)?
I don't see this happening even remotely, which begs the question why the OP's dealer suggested to have the bike sold. Wonder if it is known who has it these days...
Best, niv
This does not extent to a) after the warranty period and b) other after-market products like exhaust pipes, cams, ...
Of course this doesn't mean that HD could not void your warranty for other after market products, but this has nothing to to with the consent decree.
Why should HD report anything beyond what they have to to the EPA? While I see how this whole agreement is geared in advantage of HD and against other after-market manufacturers, I am pretty sure they do not want to **** off their clients for no reason or benefit, by reporting to the EPA beyond what is required.
Back to the OP's problem: I can simply not understand the dealer's scare story that the bike may become un-registerable at some point. First, there is absolutely ZERO indication that any laws or regulations to this end is being even thought of. Secondly, while I am sure environmental protection has much power in the US, consumer protection is still stronger: You can essentially revert the bike at no cost to factory setting (speaking of the tune only, i.e. what got it "flagged" with HD), so how would a lawmaker argue that such bikes had to go out of circulation (at the cost of the consumer)?
I don't see this happening even remotely, which begs the question why the OP's dealer suggested to have the bike sold. Wonder if it is known who has it these days...
Best, niv
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