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Old Nov 3, 2020 | 05:03 PM
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Default 2012 Deluxe slight wobble at 85+

I have tried a few things to figure out what the bike does this but so far I've done a few things and it hasn't fixed the issue yet. The bike rides great up until I get to about 85 mph and then the bike feels like a boat in the sense that I start to get a wobble and I can't tell if it's the rear or the front really. It's not like a speed wobble but more like I'm shaking my *** while going down the highway lol.

I've recently replaced both front and rear tired to see if that would help and nope, didn't change a thing.

Has anyone experienced anything like this on a softail before or have any ideas on what I could do next?
 
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Old Nov 3, 2020 | 05:45 PM
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Some things come to mind , steering stem bearings ( adjustment , motor alignment , swing arm bearings , wheel alignment ( is it true ) . Assuming you had the wheel ballanced ? if you have spoked rims they may need to be serviced , tightened and aligned .
 
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Old Nov 3, 2020 | 07:19 PM
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Some things come to mind , steering stem bearings ( adjustment , motor alignment , swing arm bearings , wheel alignment ( is it true ) . Assuming you had the wheel ballanced ? if you have spoked rims they may need to be serviced , tightened and aligned .
Yeah wheels were balanced and installed by Harley Davidson. I think of the things you mentioned maybe the spokes come to mind or else I'm not sure.

I feel as if it's the rear part of the bike that's doing this and not so much the front. However, when I look at the front while I'm sitting on the bike, the handlebars don't look 100% straight when the wheel is straight forward. I might need to restart there.
 
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Old Nov 3, 2020 | 08:27 PM
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Truing spoked rims takes time and is a lost art , the dealer would have charged extra for that , could check with them on that . All my bikes had spokes up til now . I did have one bike that had a bad rear rim , but it wobbled a lot earlier than 85 mph . I would check for swing arm play , I just recently did mine , and after 24000 miles , they were bone dry and one was seized . I noticed on my test ride how much of an improvement it made with the new bearings . If your bike feels like a dog wagging it's tail , then I'd focus on that .
 
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Old Nov 3, 2020 | 11:37 PM
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Truing spoked rims takes time and is a lost art , the dealer would have charged extra for that , could check with them on that . All my bikes had spokes up til now . I did have one bike that had a bad rear rim , but it wobbled a lot earlier than 85 mph . I would check for swing arm play , I just recently did mine , and after 24000 miles , they were bone dry and one was seized . I noticed on my test ride how much of an improvement it made with the new bearings . If your bike feels like a dog wagging it's tail , then I'd focus on that .
It definitely feels like a dog wagging it's tail but only at 85 or so, before it's smooth as butter. I'll do some research on checking that swingarm play, although I have to suspect that the handlebars not being dead center when going straight has something to do with it riding a bit... off.
 
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FavRK has covered it pretty good on the check list. Spokes are an ez check . Bike in the air and plink each spoke with a pencil is what I use. You’ll find the sound changes. Not always noticeable at first but with few rotations of the wheel you’ll pick up on it if it’s slight. A broke spoke or stripped nipple is real obvious. A trueing stand with a run out dial indicator is a necessity to check accurately.
Swing arm bearings are good to check if the bike is washed regularly or with a pressure washer. Good luck.
 
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Old Nov 4, 2020 | 03:47 AM
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Check wheel weights.

It might seem insignificant as the dealer worked on the bike but these do fall off from time to time.
 
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What bars do you have ? If your using taller bars you may want to consider putting in poly bushing instead of the stock rubber ones . I find a huge improvement using poly when changing up to 10" or higher . I have also recommended a beefier clamp with set screws to keep your bars from rotating , not a good thing . You right , bars being off center can definitely be an issue , all you may have to do is straighten them and take a test run , you never know .
 
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Old Nov 23, 2020 | 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by MyFavRk
What bars do you have ? If your using taller bars you may want to consider putting in poly bushing instead of the stock rubber ones . I find a huge improvement using poly when changing up to 10" or higher . I have also recommended a beefier clamp with set screws to keep your bars from rotating , not a good thing . You right , bars being off center can definitely be an issue , all you may have to do is straighten them and take a test run , you never know .
Man I'm getting so frustrated. Bars are currently stock but I do have it in my plan to go with some 16" Carlini Gangster apes. I just haven't gotten that far yet.

So far I have had the spokes tightened (not necessarily trued) by a shop and said that the stock wheels should be fine now.
I have checked air pressure and it was a bit low so I corrected that and now both tires are at correct pressures.
Swingarm looks ok after I washed it but haven't really had a chance to check for play.

Still does a "weave" but only at higher speeds, I want to say at 80-85+ mph. I did find out that the rear shock was changed as the bike is lowered 2" and I'm guessing that is where I should look next.

If I change suspension now I'm wondering if I should go with air ride or just go with progessive shocks or something.
 
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Old Nov 24, 2020 | 06:33 AM
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I think your on the right track , when you check your swing arm , it's best if you remove the rear tire completely , undo the lower shock bolts , then check for play . I recently checked mine and even though I had no play , the swing would not move up / down smoothly , it would hang in mid air , had to pull it down to get it to drop . When I removed it , I found that one of the pivot bearings was bone dry and had seized , I had new bearings installed and packed a little more grease in them before I reinstalled . I honestly got a much smoother ride from doing this , it paid off .

I do my own wheels , but it was my first time doing the swing arm and this job is more time consuming than anything , not difficult at all with the right tools . I can't see the softail being much different .

As for shocks , I can't help you there , I would check out reviews or start another post and see what others have to recommend .
 
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