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Old Aug 22, 2007 | 04:26 PM
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rmsurveyors, sorry for your problem. If I were you, I would go to another dealer, how bout the one you bought it from - despite being far away from you. let us know the outcome; sometimes people on forums don't want to hear the day-to-day bad as our lives are tough enough. We want to hear how you got it fixed!
 
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Old Aug 22, 2007 | 05:36 PM
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You "saved" $4,000 and still paid $20,000 for a Heritage?
Fosters Tuscombia, Alabama wanted $22,000.00 +for an 07 plain Jane Heritage, Bumpus wanted $20,000.00 + for a plain Jane 07 Heritage, I went to Columbia Tennessee HD and bought the 2008 dark blue pearl Heritage for $20,000.00 out the door, plus got $2,000.00 more trade-in than what either Bumpus or Fosters had to offer. That's where I saved the money! Most of the dealers are trying to get top dollar out of the 07 left overs, and it ain't happening. The reasons being these dealers are financed on floor plan and if the bike doesn't sell then the interest builds and before they know it they got more in the bike than it's worth and then theytry to recoup by asking big money from the customers, which obviously ain't buying.Then compound the reputation of both dealers,who both havepoor service records, and certainly their bike sales go down hill, and I'm glad! I myself have cost them many of bike sales due to the way they have treated me and several of my friends, and will continue to do so until they are either out of business or they change their work ethics and lame business practices. As for the knock issue with the 08 Heritage, my selling dealer Columbia, Tennessee HD, has assured me that the bike will be gone over with a fine tooth comb and the knocking noisewill be history, we'll see. I think he's on the same page as I am and says the noise I described sounds like a loose or defective compensator, which Foster's mechanic said was not the case when he listen to the bike. When I mentioned that I thought thecompensator was loose or bad,Fosters said no way because if the compensator was bad,any noisewould go away byapplying the clutch, according to him this supposedlytakes the load off the compensator. However, when I ask him how does pulling in on the clutch relieve the compensator of the engine impulses, when in neutral under no load, his eyes got real surprised and I was given the old "Just because it does" response. This is the kind of BS that these HD Jiffy Lube mechanics come up with that most anyone with the least mechanical aptitude knows is BS. Where on earth do they get these clowns, I think I just answered that question.
 
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Old Aug 22, 2007 | 06:00 PM
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rmsurveyors, sorry for your problem. If I were you, I would go to another dealer, how bout the one you bought it from - despite being far away from you. let us know the outcome; sometimes people on forums don't want to hear the day-to-day bad as our lives are tough enough. We want to hear how you got it fixed!
Called my selling dealer today and I think we're on the same page, he feels it's either a loose or defective compensator and says the bike will be gone thru like a fine tooth comb and wont leave the shop until I'm satisfied, we'll see. This noise is NOT the clatter that we heard about and many experienced with the 07's, includingmyself,this is a legitimate metallic hammering noise, much like a rod knocking in any engine, only this noise is coming straight from the compensator and hammers so hard I can feel it hammering all the way into the handle bars and floor boards. Also, the noise is not dependent on any one gear or RPM, the hammer begins shortlyfollowing engine start up with just slightwarm-up and is pretty much audible even at neutral and idle, the more rpm's applied the louder the knock gets. I've also noticed that while under load, say climbing a hill, the noise and vibration really get bad. And finally, yes the bike does have the 5th. gear chatter and sounds a little louder than my 07 Ultra clatter, which has lowers. Don't buy into the lowers on the tour models amplifying the noise. As we all know the Heritage has no lowers andthe noiseis more audible than with my Ultra Clatter. I thank everyone here for their concerns with the new08. Unlikemy 07 Clatter wagon, I think this bike will get fixed and at MOCO's expense.
 
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Old Aug 22, 2007 | 06:34 PM
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I've been reading your posts for quite awhile now, and for the life of me I can't understand why in the world you went out and bought another Moco product.For the last two months, youwere with out question the most prolific poster on the '07 tranny problem thread. If I'm not mistaken, you wanted to boycott the Moco, sue them, and generaly spread the word to all who will listen, that the Moco builds man junk burning crap. Now you, of all people, buy a new heritage? WTF? Also you, yes you tell all who will listen that you won't spend 189 bucks on the IDS to fix your Ultra clatter. You also know the only two people who have installed the IDS, that claim it didn't help their noise issue. Everyone else claims it does wonders. I'm also curious, why you've stopped, almost over night, posting in the 07' tranny problem thread? Again WTF? A solution to the clattering, which you claimed isn't a solution, and now that thread has turned into a bunch of happy customers. Where is rmsurveyors? No more bone to chew?Now your here telling the softail folks what garbage the 08's are. WTF!? For the record, I own an 07' Deluxe, and on the motorcycle pad where I work there are7 new 07's. They range in mileage from between 1300, and 6000 miles. Two dynas. three softails and two touring. Guesswhat, I'm the only one of the bunch with an issue, I've got a dull knocking noise in the primary area. I'm going to get the compensator checked. I'll let you know how it turns out, but I gotta believe, if it sounds and smells like a troll its a troll! WTF!
I do apologize for my sudden absence from the 07 issues, but really this 08 is NOT my scooter and belongs to my wife who has been wanting a heritage for quite some time now. And to be perfectly honest, after hearingsome ofthe reviews about the 08's, how the clatter noise was gone and that MOCO was building a better bike, I got curious as well and have given' MOCO the benefit of doubt. Yes, I've given MOCO hell in the past year with their 07 garbage, but I have never been a truly HD basher in a since that MOCO only builds garbage bikes, after all I've bought 4 bikes from them in the last 2 years, of which 3 are $20,000.00 + bikes, and 2 were without problems. My complaint has always been with the wayMOCO went into denial with this clatter noise thing and left their customers hanging to fix the problem at their own expense. All bike manufactures make some bad bikes, all I expect is when they build a bad one they keep their end of the bargain and fixit, when and if it breaks, nothing more and nothing less. If they honor their part of the agreement then I'll praise them well, but if they don't and try to screw me, well I'll be right back here in the forum with my opinions to the contrary. This 08 is my wifes bike and more than ever I expect MOCO, to fix it as agreed in the warranty, this is NOT bashingMOCO this is just plain ole constructive criticism.My wife spent her hard earned money on this one and if I know my wife they'll be honoring their warranty.
 
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Old Aug 22, 2007 | 08:50 PM
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Rmsurveyors,

I've been reading your posts for quite awhile now, and for the life of me I can't understand why in the world you went out and bought another Moco product.For the last two months, youwere with out question the most prolific poster on the '07 tranny problem thread. If I'm not mistaken, you wanted to boycott the Moco, sue them, and generaly spread the word to all who will listen, that the Moco builds man junk burning crap. Now you, of all people, buy a new heritage? WTF? Also you, yes you tell all who will listen that you won't spend 189 bucks on the IDS to fix your Ultra clatter. You also know the only two people who have installed the IDS, that claim it didn't help their noise issue. Everyone else claims it does wonders. I'm also curious, why you've stopped, almost over night, posting in the 07' tranny problem thread? Again WTF? A solution to the clattering, which you claimed isn't a solution, and now that thread has turned into a bunch of happy customers. Where is rmsurveyors? No more bone to chew?Now your here telling the softail folks what garbage the 08's are. WTF!? For the record, I own an 07' Deluxe, and on the motorcycle pad where I work there are7 new 07's. They range in mileage from between 1300, and 6000 miles. Two dynas. three softails and two touring. Guesswhat, I'm the only one of the bunch with an issue, I've got a dull knocking noise in the primary area. I'm going to get the compensator checked. I'll let you know how it turns out, but I gotta believe, if it sounds and smells like a troll its a troll! WTF!
I do apologize for my sudden absence from the 07 issues, but really this 08 is NOT my scooter and belongs to my wife who has been wanting a heritage for quite some time now. And to be perfectly honest, after hearingsome ofthe reviews about the 08's, how the clatter noise was gone and that MOCO was building a better bike, I got curious as well and have given' MOCO the benefit of doubt. Yes, I've given MOCO hell in the past year with their 07 garbage, but I have never been a truly HD basher in a since that MOCO only builds garbage bikes, after all I've bought 4 bikes from them in the last 2 years, of which 3 are $20,000.00 + bikes, and 2 were without problems. My complaint has always been with the wayMOCO went into denial with this clatter noise thing and left their customers hanging to fix the problem at their own expense. All bike manufactures make some bad bikes, all I expect is when they build a bad one they keep their end of the bargain and fixit, when and if it breaks, nothing more and nothing less. If they honor their part of the agreement then I'll praise them well, but if they don't and try to screw me, well I'll be right back here in the forum with my opinions to the contrary. This 08 is my wifes bike and more than ever I expect MOCO, to fix it as agreed in the warranty, this is NOT bashingMOCO this is just plain ole constructive criticism.My wife spent her hard earned money on this one and if I know my wife they'll be honoring their warranty.
I call BS on everything you've ever posted. You're either a troll or a pathetic wannabe Harley rider.
 
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Old Aug 22, 2007 | 09:06 PM
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Rmsurveyors,

I've been reading your posts for quite awhile now, and for the life of me I can't understand why in the world you went out and bought another Moco product.For the last two months, youwere with out question the most prolific poster on the '07 tranny problem thread. If I'm not mistaken, you wanted to boycott the Moco, sue them, and generaly spread the word to all who will listen, that the Moco builds man junk burning crap. Now you, of all people, buy a new heritage? WTF? Also you, yes you tell all who will listen that you won't spend 189 bucks on the IDS to fix your Ultra clatter. You also know the only two people who have installed the IDS, that claim it didn't help their noise issue. Everyone else claims it does wonders. I'm also curious, why you've stopped, almost over night, posting in the 07' tranny problem thread? Again WTF? A solution to the clattering, which you claimed isn't a solution, and now that thread has turned into a bunch of happy customers. Where is rmsurveyors? No more bone to chew?Now your here telling the softail folks what garbage the 08's are. WTF!? For the record, I own an 07' Deluxe, and on the motorcycle pad where I work there are7 new 07's. They range in mileage from between 1300, and 6000 miles. Two dynas. three softails and two touring. Guesswhat, I'm the only one of the bunch with an issue, I've got a dull knocking noise in the primary area. I'm going to get the compensator checked. I'll let you know how it turns out, but I gotta believe, if it sounds and smells like a troll its a troll! WTF!
I do apologize for my sudden absence from the 07 issues, but really this 08 is NOT my scooter and belongs to my wife who has been wanting a heritage for quite some time now. And to be perfectly honest, after hearingsome ofthe reviews about the 08's, how the clatter noise was gone and that MOCO was building a better bike, I got curious as well and have given' MOCO the benefit of doubt. Yes, I've given MOCO hell in the past year with their 07 garbage, but I have never been a truly HD basher in a since that MOCO only builds garbage bikes, after all I've bought 4 bikes from them in the last 2 years, of which 3 are $20,000.00 + bikes, and 2 were without problems. My complaint has always been with the wayMOCO went into denial with this clatter noise thing and left their customers hanging to fix the problem at their own expense. All bike manufactures make some bad bikes, all I expect is when they build a bad one they keep their end of the bargain and fixit, when and if it breaks, nothing more and nothing less. If they honor their part of the agreement then I'll praise them well, but if they don't and try to screw me, well I'll be right back here in the forum with my opinions to the contrary. This 08 is my wifes bike and more than ever I expect MOCO, to fix it as agreed in the warranty, this is NOT bashingMOCO this is just plain ole constructive criticism.My wife spent her hard earned money on this one and if I know my wife they'll be honoring their warranty.
Icall BS on everything you've ever posted. You're either a troll or a pathetic wannabe Harley rider.
I, as well as most others on this forumreally don't care what you think. I along with others have put lots of effort toward resolving the 07 issues. You on the other hand have done nothing but criticize those that have had bike problems! Just because you don't agree withmost of us doesn't meanwe're trolls. And the Harley wanna be, I don't get that, what owning a Harley puts you or me or any one else above those who ride other brands of bikes, I don't think so.Personally I don'tthink youeven own a bike! Now take your sarcasm and Peter Fonda wanna be attitude elsewhere if you don't like th
 
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Old Aug 22, 2007 | 09:39 PM
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Icall BS on everything you've ever posted. You're either a troll or a pathetic wannabe Harley rider.

ORIGINAL: rmsurveyorsI, as well as most others on this forumreally don't care what you think.
I care what he thinks. I spent a hell of a lot of time reading your rants about your 07 and how everyone should boycott moco and now you go back and buy another new Harley?

You are either the dumbest *** I ever heard of or just full of bull.

No one in his right mind with the troubles you claimed to have with the 07 would ever buy another product from that manufacturer.

Bottom line - I don't believe anything you ever said or ever will say.

You have kept these boards hopping with non stop rants about your 07, every one of which I took as gospel and I thought I was learning from you.

Why don't you just shut the frick up?
 
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Old Aug 22, 2007 | 09:47 PM
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[/quote] I really don't care what you think. I along with others have put more effort toward resolving the 07 issues than you'll ever be responsible for! Just because you don't agree withmost of us doesn't meanwe're trolls. And the Harley wanna be, I don't get that,what owning a Harley puts you or me or any one else above those who ride other brands of bikes, I don't think so.Personally I think you don't even own a bike! Now take your sarcasm elsewhere if you don't like the posts, cause there is plenty more you can learn from!
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So now I don't even own a bike since I won't climb on your bandwagon of Harley bashing? You're the most vocal against Harley and, like what was posted up above, the IDS (which you had NOTHING to do with the developing of) solved the clatterproblemso now you come over and start bashing 08Softails.

By saying youare a wannbe Harley rider, I didn't mean you rode another brand, I meant that you're a wannbe Harley rider, thatmaybe you ride one but you're too frail for the experience. My legs are hot, my bike makes noise, the oil tank is hot, the handlebars vibrate, thewind blows my hair, blah blah blah.... I know womenthat have never been a bike before that whined less than you on their first ride in the Arizona heat (oh wait, maybe I don't livein Arizona either)...
 
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Old Aug 22, 2007 | 09:53 PM
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Thank's JBaker. I notice he justedited his original post to speak for "most others on this board".

 
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Icall BS on everything you've ever posted. You're either a troll or a pathetic wannabe Harley rider.

ORIGINAL: rmsurveyorsI, as well as most others on this forumreally don't care what you think.
I care what he thinks. I spent a hell of a lot of time reading your rants about your 07 and how everyone should boycott moco and now you go back and buy another new Harley?

You are either the dumbest *** I ever heard of or just full of bull.

No one in his right mind with the troubles you claimed to have with the 07 would ever buy another product from that manufacturer.

Bottom line - I don't believe anything you ever said or ever will say.

You have kept these boards hopping with non stop rants about your 07, every one of which I took as gospel and I thought I was learning from you.

Why don't you just shut the frick up?
Shows how much attention you payed to the post, the Heritage is NOT mine and was purchased by the wife, the issue with the 07 Clatter wagon still remains the same, MOCO screwed their 07 customers, you know it and everyone that's riding one of the clatter wagons knows it. As for the IDS, who's still paying the tab?
 
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