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Old Feb 24, 2009 | 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by m i k e
starting to redo wires for apes handlebar change, the wires
how do these suckers come out? (of the duecth) thanks
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I've received several emails over the last two years asking about
extracting wires from the ever so popular AMP connectors.
HD uses these in several locations on their machines.

Here's the last one:

mud,
I picked up the short standoffs at the dealer today and wanted to
install them tonight but am unsure about the process.

Someone on the forum said you cut the wire for each signal and splice into it,

but the directions don't say anything to that effect.

They mention something about undoing the plug from the rear tail light area instead.

I've never done any electrical work on my bike before
so I'm not really sure if these mod is out of my league.

Any chance you might be able to decipher the instructions
and give me some tips on doing the install?

Thanks,



******, yeah nice to hear from you.

I am a strong believer in NOT cutting wires.

Yes, remove the lens, then unplug the fitting.

Really very simple to disassemble the electrical connectors
so you can pull the wires thru the standoffs.

I've heard quite a few folks on the forums
brag on how fast they can cut the wire and then solder.
Sadly, that bit of misinformation is a joke.

I can extract several before you can even get out
the snips, soldering gun, solder, shrink wrap, heat gun, etc.

Patience is a virtue while mastering this technique on the first wire.
After that, they get easier.

I can release them in a matter of seconds now.
Same is true for the other connectors that HD uses -
Deutsch, Packard, Delphi -
NO need to BUY SPECIAL extraction tools for any of these.


Here ya go:

Remove the two screws that hold the taillight to it's housing.
Use a small screwdriver to push the lock tab down a little,
and pull the fitting out.



This image below shows the 2 hole AMP and the tip of the 16 gauge wire I use.
Blue arrow shows a slight bend, and the tip is hammered flat.

Red is the first lock to undo. This is what holds the wires in the fitting.

Green is the tab that you released in the first step above,
it locks the fitting to it's receiver.
Green on the right is opened way up for some of the pix farther down.
Don't bend it out or you will ruin the fitting.
They are cheap, fifty cents or so.



Blue below, better shot of the 16 ga tip.



Next image you see I put an S bend in my release tool so I can control it better.
Also here you see that I have the turn indicator wire pushed fully IN
while raising the lock tang inside.



Now, below, once you have the lock tang lifted,
extract the wire.

Don't forget to pay attention to which wire comes from which side of the fitting.
There are small numbers on the housing.
In this case. 1 is purple, 2 is black.



Next two images illustrate where the tang is, and where the tip of my tool needs to be.
Green is pulled way up here simply for the photo.

I suggest buying a couple of new sockets so you can fold this way wide open
for your first try at this. If need be.



Little blue arrow indicates how far the end of the tang lifting wire needs to be.



These are great fittings, but, they are not watertight.
Green below shows a generous dab of dielectric compound on the tip of a little brush.
Red -



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Old Feb 24, 2009 | 07:41 PM
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fine folks
thanks a million i finally got those buzzards outta there,i read service manual(haveone),
looked in dyna section(went there 1st actually),guess i was in a daze er somethin
mine look different from muds though probably cuz i have a different ride?
moral of the story my bud came over, never seen a duetch ever, slipped a paperclip in there
under 30 seconds had the 1st one out!!!! arrghhh!!!! after that like ranger said few minutes & it was done,my bud did 4 i did 4 then i think we tackled the delphi but that was different too.might even try the other side later.
ok next question my extension kit do i soder or crimp wires together?
 
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