Slip On Muffler Debate
Road Warrior
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From: Upstate NY
Well from dealing with sportbikes I have always known this to not be true. If you went full aftermarket exhaust you needed something to balance the fuel/air mix (jetting the bike or adding a PC). I could be wrong but I can't see a Harley being different.I know if I went to a full setup I would add a PC or such.
Road Master
Joined: Feb 2009
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From: Riverside, TX
Just put the Fuelmoto pkg on wifes 09 Heritage. Rush 2.0 slipons, A/C and pcV. very quick install, sounds great and no decel popping, etc. I added the pcv and AC due to the heat issue. Also added the same to my road king. did all Friday am. both took less than 2 hours total to install.
Tourer
Joined: Mar 2009
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i have a set of cycle shack slip ons that cost me $179 (plus about an hour of labor from a local bike shop (not a dealer)
they are nice and loud
i ended up putting on an arlen ness big sucker on for $150 (plus 30 min labor)
the bike breathes a lot better. and made the pipes sound even deeper
i didnt do the download, but i do have a set of xieds on
they are nice and loud
i ended up putting on an arlen ness big sucker on for $150 (plus 30 min labor)
the bike breathes a lot better. and made the pipes sound even deeper
i didnt do the download, but i do have a set of xieds on
Road Warrior
Joined: May 2007
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From: Somewhere in, WA
I just put SEIIs on my 09. When I got the Sporty (an 07) I put Rush Slipons on it and ran with just the slipons, no other mods, for 19K and amost 2 years. I had no problems. Now, the dealer is telling me all kinds of horror stories about how I've already (in 3 days time) ruined my engine, and that my mufflers are going to turn a funny shade of yellow because I only changed the mufflers. Going by what I learned on the Sporty, unless they have drastically changed something in the EFI system, I just don't forsee that I'm going to have a problem.
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Cruiser
Joined: Apr 2009
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From: Creola, AL.
Unless you change the Intake Tract & Filter to something other than stock your OK. I hate to say it but, my experience with dealers who just want your money isn't good. Most of what they tell you is BS.
My dealer is telling me they no longer recommend the Power Commander. They are now pushing the Harley Race Tuner. It costs $400 + and requires Dyno time for another $375. It is not part of the bike and is only plugged into your ECU during the tuning process. It has your serial number programmed in. Every time you do anything to your bike you need the device and more Dyno Time. Theoretically you must carry it with you in case anything goes wrong. Its all about getting your dollar!
My dealer is telling me they no longer recommend the Power Commander. They are now pushing the Harley Race Tuner. It costs $400 + and requires Dyno time for another $375. It is not part of the bike and is only plugged into your ECU during the tuning process. It has your serial number programmed in. Every time you do anything to your bike you need the device and more Dyno Time. Theoretically you must carry it with you in case anything goes wrong. Its all about getting your dollar!
Road Warrior
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From: Somewhere in, WA
I hear you there. My Indy, who IS Harley Certified, tells me there's no problem. I Trust him. The dealership is not also po'd at me because I opted to go to the indy for my 1k service at the cost of $125 instead of the dealer's price for the same thing of $380.00. Gee doesn't take rocket science to figure out where the best deal is.
In my opinion they are pricing themselves out of the service business. The only thing they get from me service wise is warranty work. Nothing more.
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Intermediate
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From: Missouri
I have a local Indy. He's a graduate of MMI and Harley certified. I take my bike to him for everything. No waiting 2 weeks to get an appointment. Half the labor cost and when I was looking at a new (used) bike he took an hour out of his day to come with me to the guys house and check it over. I even take the bike to him for simple things like fluid changes which I could do myself, but it only costs a few extra bucks and it keeps him in business which saves me much bigger bucks when I need something major done that I can't handle myself. Support your local Indy!
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From: Houston, Texas
Well from dealing with sportbikes I have always known this to not be true. If you went full aftermarket exhaust you needed something to balance the fuel/air mix (jetting the bike or adding a PC). I could be wrong but I can't see a Harley being different.I know if I went to a full setup I would add a PC or such.
A Major Motorcycle Magazine has actually published an article stating that with the new Harley fuel injection system, you can install a set of high flow pipes and a high flow air cleaner and that the stock system will compensate for the changes....
If he is only going to install pipes, he has nothing to worry about
CC
Tourer
Joined: Mar 2008
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From: north idaho
I installed Rush Slip-ons on my 09 Fatboy, runs great no changes no maps no fuel mods, I also have read changes to the Air, on any 96's from 07> 09's it will self adjust for both, will be doing air next then a set of Ixed's and done.....