Andrews 50G
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Why the 50g? Looks like it is going to want more than stock compression. You'd probably be better sticking with one of the more tried and true cams like maybe the 37G?
Where do you run in the RPM range mostly? Are you agressive, passive? Tend to hit the redline, or keep it in the lower ranges? This really determines the correct style of cams to select, then it is a matter of finding what manufacturer you wish to go with as they all have good selections within those ranges.
Do your homework, as there are a whole lot of variables to consider and a ton of information out there to educate you. There is no one right decision, but if you make a bad one you'll be regretting it for a long time (until you fix it by redoing it, or getting deeper into the motor work).
Roger
Where do you run in the RPM range mostly? Are you agressive, passive? Tend to hit the redline, or keep it in the lower ranges? This really determines the correct style of cams to select, then it is a matter of finding what manufacturer you wish to go with as they all have good selections within those ranges.
Do your homework, as there are a whole lot of variables to consider and a ton of information out there to educate you. There is no one right decision, but if you make a bad one you'll be regretting it for a long time (until you fix it by redoing it, or getting deeper into the motor work).
Roger
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A friend recommend this cam, but from what I have read I think it may be too much. I normally run about 2500 rpm, the only time I hit the rev limiter is when I am cutting up. I just don't want to go through the expense of a cam change and wish I would have went with a different one! I want to feel the change that I make, in the seat of the pants!
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if you arent planning on additional engine work, most guys are happy with the SE204, or Andrews 21 or 26...they give good low to mid pulling but like everyone has said, you have to figure out where you want your power and what if any mods you plan to make in the future
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From: 40 miles Northeast of Indy..
Here is what Andrews says the 50 cam is for.
Designed for easy installation in 95 inch motors with stock heads and 9.5 to 9.8 CR. (2400 to 6000 RPM)
U have neither of the above, so that's why It would probably be way too much cam for U 88'er..
Read through this and U'll learn what U need and how to pick a cam for U ridding style..
http://www.andrewsproducts.com/motor...sing_a_cam.htm
The Andrews 37 would be IMO a lotttttt, better pick for U solo riding on Ur Deuce.
Also other good picks would be. Not listed in any order of preference.
Dave Mackie TC510.
Head Quarters 500 TC.
S&S 510 G.
SE 203's and 204's
Andrews 26's
T-Man 525.
U should think about going with a gear cam if U run-out is OK, U'll get rid of the tensioner issue if U do..
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I have heard the runout should not be a issue on a 04 but it will be checked before I do anything. My goal is to go with the gear drive set up. I will read up on the other cams you mentioned. As I said befor I have talked to people who have changed there cam to fix the tensioner issue and just went with a 21 and they say the diff is really not noticeable. I just want to be able to fell the change that I did!
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Like so many others have said, it's too much cam for basically a stock 88. I really think you will be disappointed. Andrews 37 work well in a lite bike like yours, and as a bonus they respond extremely well to a 95 if or when you upgrade. A properly built 95 with 37G cams and a good tune will make or exceed 90hp- 100tq. On a Duece, that ='s fun.
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I have heard the runout should not be a issue on a 04 but it will be checked before I do anything. My goal is to go with the gear drive set up. I will read up on the other cams you mentioned. As I said befor I have talked to people who have changed there cam to fix the tensioner issue and just went with a 21 and they say the diff is really not noticeable. I just want to be able to fell the change that I did!
I did the 26h's which come on a couple 100 rpms later(around 2k) than the 21's and last a couple 100 longer than they do (still strong at 4500, and don't fall off much at 5200), BUT, believe me THEY the cams,,, make a BIG difference...
Best info I can give U is quite listening to people who think they know and learn for Ur self what the real difference is...
Here below is the diff proved with my dyno sheets between my stock 96er and then with stg1 and the 26h cams..
With Andrews 26H cam.
Between 1800 and 2300 rpms TQ is 10- 15 % improved.
Between the TQ is 8% better and the HP is 20%.
Between 3500 and 4500 the TQ is 20% better and HP is 15 -20 % better.
Then at 5200 rpms its right at 30 % better TQ and HP over the stock 96.
Just look at the two sheets and U can see the diff..
Not I proved the difference to U and I disagree with who ever told U that U can't tell the difference with the cams installed.
If Ur friends didn't get the same results then IMO its because they didn't get a good dyno tune afterwards and/or they didn't pay for a good fuel managent fuel system and dyno...
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Ok, I like to think of myself as a very cautious and careful shopper, I try to research the crap out of something befor I buy it, but I am just stumped with this cam decision. Just when I think I know the correct direction to go with this I read conflicting thoughts.
I was convinced I wanted to go with gear drive, but then I read an old post that talked bad about the gears and boosted the Hyd chain. I don't think I will ever do a big boar kit, I just wanted a little something that I could feel.
Not to jump topics but I am struggling with the same thing on some new exhaust, I put some D&D 2-2 when I put the bike together in 04, the tunner recommended them and the Dyno proved him right, I had some good numbers and flat tq curve. I just don't like the sound of them, never did! So I started looking into something different, I kind of like the D&D fat cat, but once again I have read good things and then there is the bad. HELP!!!
I was convinced I wanted to go with gear drive, but then I read an old post that talked bad about the gears and boosted the Hyd chain. I don't think I will ever do a big boar kit, I just wanted a little something that I could feel.
Not to jump topics but I am struggling with the same thing on some new exhaust, I put some D&D 2-2 when I put the bike together in 04, the tunner recommended them and the Dyno proved him right, I had some good numbers and flat tq curve. I just don't like the sound of them, never did! So I started looking into something different, I kind of like the D&D fat cat, but once again I have read good things and then there is the bad. HELP!!!
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