Crazy Monster Build thread
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I am well inside the frame, if you mean the rear frame rail by the pivot bolt.
Thanx for the info. I am gonna get some guys over here to take a look. Worse comes to worse I will put the stock rear end on and make it a bobber. Will still look great I think. I just dont want to give up so quick on this set up.
I could bolt the stock rear end on and rip it around for a few weeks, then take a look at the primary over the winter???
Thanx for the info. I am gonna get some guys over here to take a look. Worse comes to worse I will put the stock rear end on and make it a bobber. Will still look great I think. I just dont want to give up so quick on this set up.
I could bolt the stock rear end on and rip it around for a few weeks, then take a look at the primary over the winter???
Last edited by ctluba; Oct 13, 2012 at 02:49 PM.
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You do not have a 2" offset...you can only go 1 1/4" on a stock evo softail before you hit the frame...so if you mocked up a 2" offset the chain would be outside the frame....looking at your pics, looks like you would only need a 1/2 to 3/4 offset to make that work....I have a 1 1/4" offset on my softail with a chain to clear a 250 tire. You will not need to machine anything just buy an offset chain sprocket...done
https://www.google.com/search?q=harl...w=1440&bih=738
https://www.google.com/search?q=harl...w=1440&bih=738
Last edited by Tom84FXST; Oct 13, 2012 at 05:23 PM.
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2nd time in on this build. Looks freakin awesome! Love the creativity. Been watchin from afar cuz i can't really contribute. The moderators need to do something about the *** in Texas. Probably didn't get hugged enough when he was in diapers. Oh, that would be now!! Mommy probably doesn't let him out of the basement enough either. Keep it goin, CT!
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You do not have a 2" offset...you can only go 1 1/4" on a stock evo softail before you hit the frame...so if you mocked up a 2" offset the chain would be outside the frame....looking at your pics, looks like you would only need a 1/2 to 3/4 offset to make that work....I have a 1 1/4" offset on my softail with a chain to clear a 250 tire. You will not need to machine anything just buy an offset chain sprocket...done
https://www.google.com/search?q=harl...w=1440&bih=738
https://www.google.com/search?q=harl...w=1440&bih=738
Now that is what I am talkin about!!! I have been stressed all day thinkin this rear end will be a no-go after a lot of time and effort. Like I said, some dudes I know know some other dudes who are really harley heads and they are are gonna look at it. If it is as simple as gettin a 1/2" or 3/4" or 1" offset kit, I should be on the road in a week or so!!
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Try contacting D.M. customs (www.dmcustoms.net). They offer a wide tire kit for HD's and I saw an off set sprocket on the website. While they're under the radar, those guys are very talented and would definitely have a few ideas to help you out.
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**I'm not giving you a pass on that spring seat, throw it in the garbage!**
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See, my big weakness with these harleys is the primary. I understand how it works, chain from motor turns the ****ing tranny witch turns the wheel.
I am just having a problem visualizing how the sprocket moves out behind that inner primary plate.
Anyway, I went in the garage and looked at the primary. I have been looking at the offset primary kits on ebay. I see how they have those two plates that come in the kit. I think I understand that one of those plates / spacers goes between the motor and the inner primary plate. The other plate / spacer goes between the tranny and the back half of the inner primary plate, therefore moving the primary out from the motor and tranny the same thickness as the plates / spacers in the kit.
So I went into the garage and slid the inner primary plate on the bike. I left a one inch gap between the inner primary plate and the motor and tranny, basically where those spacer plates would go. I then looked at the "tunnel", "channel" whatever you want to call it, where the chain would run. It is directly lined up with the chain run line on the swinger. I think I just need a 3/4" or 1" offset primary kit and offset sprocket..............I think.
Oh, and thanx for that link, I will check them out.
Sorry Branner, too busy with trying to make this thing roll, the seat stays for now.
I am just having a problem visualizing how the sprocket moves out behind that inner primary plate.
Anyway, I went in the garage and looked at the primary. I have been looking at the offset primary kits on ebay. I see how they have those two plates that come in the kit. I think I understand that one of those plates / spacers goes between the motor and the inner primary plate. The other plate / spacer goes between the tranny and the back half of the inner primary plate, therefore moving the primary out from the motor and tranny the same thickness as the plates / spacers in the kit.
So I went into the garage and slid the inner primary plate on the bike. I left a one inch gap between the inner primary plate and the motor and tranny, basically where those spacer plates would go. I then looked at the "tunnel", "channel" whatever you want to call it, where the chain would run. It is directly lined up with the chain run line on the swinger. I think I just need a 3/4" or 1" offset primary kit and offset sprocket..............I think.
Oh, and thanx for that link, I will check them out.
Sorry Branner, too busy with trying to make this thing roll, the seat stays for now.
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Also, I really appreciate everybodys input concerning the offset. I am the one who doesnt know what I am talking about. I am just thinking out loud in these posts, so dont think I am arguing if I say something that contradicts something you or anybody has already said. I am just learnin this primary system and gonna have someone come over and straighten it out, if it can be. I just dont want to order more parts until someone looks at it and measures it and tells me to order the correct stuff.
So thanx everybody.
I dont know if I mentioned it, but to mock up the bike for these pics I used a big hose clamp to attach the lower shock linkage to the frame. Remember I never build the lower shackle yet. Hey, maybe I will just use the hose clamp?? Should do fine at highway speeds!!!!
So thanx everybody.
I dont know if I mentioned it, but to mock up the bike for these pics I used a big hose clamp to attach the lower shock linkage to the frame. Remember I never build the lower shackle yet. Hey, maybe I will just use the hose clamp?? Should do fine at highway speeds!!!!
Last edited by ctluba; Oct 13, 2012 at 08:25 PM.
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I've been watching this and think its a cool build. So props to you for thinking outside the box. What do you have in mind for the rear fender wise? I think cutting off about half of the fender struts and making a custom seat pan and no rear fender might look cool.
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From: BC
I know you have a chit ton going on right now but I 100% agree - when you are ready --- ditch that seat
Keep on going Luba - you got mad "fans" watchin' you
(and one douche bag lol)