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yeh - and HD did such a really nice job on the other new CVO / S models. kept firmly with those model's theme of style and only enhanced it. It's like the BO got handed off "to the new guy" in the design dept that rides a Street 750 / Vrod or something..
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Problem with Rivera Primo Game Changer - not for Breakout
I've posted this on the "Gearing" sticky thread for Softails as well, but figured I'd better post it here on the Breakout thread specifically as well:
Oops!
We have discussed on this thread in prior postings how the Rivera Primo Game Changer kit can be an easy and relatively inexpensive way to change the gearing by almost 6%.
Basically, what that kit does is provides a 32T sprocket that replaces the factory 34T sprocket that is mounted on the compensator inside the primary case, and also a "snap-on" piece that snaps onto the factory chain tensioner. I believe the older kits also included a shorter primary chain, but the newer kits evidently do not, probably because it was discovered that the snap-on tensioner piece adequately allows for the slighter smaller compensator sprocket.
However, in talking to Rivera Primo today, it seems that their website, and the websites of multiple dealers, are incorrect when they imply that the Game Changer works on any "big twin". Per the lady I talked to Rivera Primo today in checking out which part number to buy (The Game Changer kit comes in two different part numbers: Part # 1066-0050 & 1066-0051), the answer is NEITHER. She told me that the kit works only with Touring models. Not with Softail models. This is apaprently DESPITE what theiur own website says and what at least 2 dealer websites say.
The 10660-0050 kit works with 2013 and prior years, while the 1066-0051 works with 2014 and later years, but with Touring models only.
I have no idea how the Softail primary setup, and in particular the primary setup on my own 2014 Breakout, differs from that of the Touring models, but she said there is a difference that makes the kit unusable on a Softail (and of course a Breakout, like the Rocker before it, differs from other Softails even due to the wide rear tire changing the width of tranny and primary components).
Sigh . . .
I was really looking forward to doing this mod.
Jim G
Oops!
We have discussed on this thread in prior postings how the Rivera Primo Game Changer kit can be an easy and relatively inexpensive way to change the gearing by almost 6%.
Basically, what that kit does is provides a 32T sprocket that replaces the factory 34T sprocket that is mounted on the compensator inside the primary case, and also a "snap-on" piece that snaps onto the factory chain tensioner. I believe the older kits also included a shorter primary chain, but the newer kits evidently do not, probably because it was discovered that the snap-on tensioner piece adequately allows for the slighter smaller compensator sprocket.
However, in talking to Rivera Primo today, it seems that their website, and the websites of multiple dealers, are incorrect when they imply that the Game Changer works on any "big twin". Per the lady I talked to Rivera Primo today in checking out which part number to buy (The Game Changer kit comes in two different part numbers: Part # 1066-0050 & 1066-0051), the answer is NEITHER. She told me that the kit works only with Touring models. Not with Softail models. This is apaprently DESPITE what theiur own website says and what at least 2 dealer websites say.
The 10660-0050 kit works with 2013 and prior years, while the 1066-0051 works with 2014 and later years, but with Touring models only.
I have no idea how the Softail primary setup, and in particular the primary setup on my own 2014 Breakout, differs from that of the Touring models, but she said there is a difference that makes the kit unusable on a Softail (and of course a Breakout, like the Rocker before it, differs from other Softails even due to the wide rear tire changing the width of tranny and primary components).
Sigh . . .
I was really looking forward to doing this mod.
Jim G
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Thanks Jim, I have updated page1 of the sticky. So hey don't fret- you can do a 30/70 combo and there are a ton of shiny chrome offerings in 70t rear aftermarket pulleys to mach up with the wheels.
I ran the $ numbers at one point and the cost difference between the two methods is virtually nill. with the 30t pulley swap, your part cost is low and labor cost is high. with the Rivera method, the parts cost is high and labor is lower.
On the "DIY" scale, anyone proficient enough to install the Rivera can also install the 30t and would have the correct tools. More than likely either approach will require majority of bike owners to go to a shop.
I ran the $ numbers at one point and the cost difference between the two methods is virtually nill. with the 30t pulley swap, your part cost is low and labor cost is high. with the Rivera method, the parts cost is high and labor is lower.
On the "DIY" scale, anyone proficient enough to install the Rivera can also install the 30t and would have the correct tools. More than likely either approach will require majority of bike owners to go to a shop.