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The Everything Breakout Thread
6th Gear
Joined: Sep 2016
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From: Pineville La.
You have identified ONE of TWO part number questions.
The SECOND question is which international version of the Breakout is a given part intended to be on?
Simple examples of Breakout variances by country:
- The final drive pulley on Japanese Breakouts has a different number of teeth than the U.S. pulley
- The twin taillight configuration of the U.S. Breakout is illegal in Canada. Canada requires both a centrally mounted taillight and a license plate mounted right under it.
Jim G
The SECOND question is which international version of the Breakout is a given part intended to be on?
Simple examples of Breakout variances by country:
- The final drive pulley on Japanese Breakouts has a different number of teeth than the U.S. pulley
- The twin taillight configuration of the U.S. Breakout is illegal in Canada. Canada requires both a centrally mounted taillight and a license plate mounted right under it.
Jim G
Stage II
Joined: Sep 2016
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From: Australia
Thanks heaps for the reply much appreciated
Jim G. I will apologize right up front, just in case this is a dumb question. By doing the pulley swap does it make the bike go slower at the top end. Meaning right now I got my bike up to 115mph and it was still pulling. With different pulleys I would imagine the bike might only go 110mph? Not that I need to go that that fast, but I was just wondering? I also saw somewhere that the Speedometer needs re-calibration after this work and a new belt?
Stellar HDF Member
Joined: Feb 2014
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From: Lethbridge, Alberta Canada
Jim G. I will apologize right up front, just in case this is a dumb question. By doing the pulley swap does it make the bike go slower at the top end. Meaning right now I got my bike up to 115mph and it was still pulling. With different pulleys I would imagine the bike might only go 110mph? Not that I need to go that that fast, but I was just wondering? I also saw somewhere that the Speedometer needs re-calibration after this work and a new belt?
A new belt is normally NOT needed. You need to read LA-Dog's summary of the regearing process on the first couple of postings in the gearing thread _ I am not going to re-write it here for you.
The speedometer gets recalibrated via a change to the computer's "gearing factor". Again, read the thread summary. We cannot re-write the entire thread for everyone who asks because they have not read the thread summary. LA_Dog has done a GREAT job of both summarizing it and keeping it current as new info is discovered. Read the summary.
Jim G
HD bikes these days are geared so numerically low, for noise compliance testing reasons, that increasing the numerical ratio overall, like we are doing, actually gives them a higher top speed.
A new belt is normally NOT needed. You need to read LA-Dog's summary of the regearing process on the first couple of postings in the gearing thread _ I am not going to re-write it here for you.
The speedometer gets recalibrated via a change to the computer's "gearing factor". Again, read the thread summary. We cannot re-write the entire thread for everyone who asks because they have not read the thread summary. LA_Dog has done a GREAT job of both summarizing it and keeping it current as new info is discovered. Read the summary.
Jim G
A new belt is normally NOT needed. You need to read LA-Dog's summary of the regearing process on the first couple of postings in the gearing thread _ I am not going to re-write it here for you.
The speedometer gets recalibrated via a change to the computer's "gearing factor". Again, read the thread summary. We cannot re-write the entire thread for everyone who asks because they have not read the thread summary. LA_Dog has done a GREAT job of both summarizing it and keeping it current as new info is discovered. Read the summary.
Jim G
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From: Lethbridge, Alberta Canada
Changing ONLY the transmission output pulley or the compensator sprocket gives you only a 6.7% overall gearing ratio improvement.
But to answer your question directly, I found that the compensator sprocket change kit, at least at the time a few months ago, was NOT a fit for the Breakout. The Breakout has a unique offset shared only with the Rocker, and the comp kit was not designed for that application.
Note also that the LABOR for changing the transmission output pulley is far more extensive and less DUI-friendly than changing the rear wheel pulley. And if you pick one of the HD rear pulleys that LA_Dog has determined will fit the Breakout wheel, the cost of the rear pulley is not THAT much more than that of the Trike transmission output pulley.
No point in your trying to reinvent the wheel. LA_Dog has compared the alternatives and his summary posting in the gearing thread gives you all the comparative info you need to make a decision.
Jim G
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From: Great State of Canada
I Have LA's sheet. It deals with converting BO's with 32t transmission pulley and 66t rear pulley and 133t belt.
My 2014 BO has a 32t transmission pulley, a 64t rear pulley and 132t belt.
Anyone done a conversion on a 2014 BO ? I'm wondering if in changing only the rear pulley to a 68t unit or, the rear to 68t and the transmission to a 30t, if I can retain the 132t belt.
Apologies for dragging this out, but I'm facing Canadian pricing and trying to determine what I'm in for cost-wise.
My 2014 BO has a 32t transmission pulley, a 64t rear pulley and 132t belt.
Anyone done a conversion on a 2014 BO ? I'm wondering if in changing only the rear pulley to a 68t unit or, the rear to 68t and the transmission to a 30t, if I can retain the 132t belt.
Apologies for dragging this out, but I'm facing Canadian pricing and trying to determine what I'm in for cost-wise.
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Road Captain
Joined: Jan 2014
Posts: 635
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From: North Jersey, USA
I Have LA's sheet. It deals with converting BO's with 32t transmission pulley and 66t rear pulley and 133t belt.
My 2014 BO has a 32t transmission pulley, a 64t rear pulley and 132t belt.
Anyone done a conversion on a 2014 BO ? I'm wondering if in changing only the rear pulley to a 68t unit or, the rear to 68t and the transmission to a 30t, if I can retain the 132t belt.
Apologies for dragging this out, but I'm facing Canadian pricing and trying to determine what I'm in for cost-wise.
My 2014 BO has a 32t transmission pulley, a 64t rear pulley and 132t belt.
Anyone done a conversion on a 2014 BO ? I'm wondering if in changing only the rear pulley to a 68t unit or, the rear to 68t and the transmission to a 30t, if I can retain the 132t belt.
Apologies for dragging this out, but I'm facing Canadian pricing and trying to determine what I'm in for cost-wise.
My Breakout is a '14. I swapped over to the 68T Sportster pulley...last year I think?? Seems like it anyhow, lol... anyway, that's all I've changed with respect to the primary & final drives. The original belt worked, no problem. Plenty of room left for belt adjustment down the road if necessary. The bike has a 250 rear tire now - the Elite 3 Dunlop. Plenty of clearance there as well.
Seasoned HDF Member
Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 6,174
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From: Great State of Canada
My Breakout is a '14. I swapped over to the 68T Sportster pulley...last year I think?? Seems like it anyhow, lol... anyway, that's all I've changed with respect to the primary & final drives. The original belt worked, no problem. Plenty of room left for belt adjustment down the road if necessary. The bike has a 250 rear tire now - the Elite 3 Dunlop. Plenty of clearance there as well.
Just bought this:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/112133686426
Figured I'd risk 100 bux in hopes of saving 400 or 500. Hopefully this will fit.