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Old May 11, 2017 | 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by UHDhog
Get a few bottles of Ride-On tire sealant. It's a hydrodynamic balancing compound and also seals punctures instantly should you get one. I put some in my front tire before and it does indeed balance it. However, the recommended dose for our rear tire was too much and did not allow it to balance properly.
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The use of any of the liquid balancing products also complicates tire changes. Plus, the weight of the balancing liquid is far higher than that of any wheel weights, which adds unnecessary rotational inertia which hinders both handling and acceleration.

I'd recommend you gte the wheel balanced correctly - and at a shop different than the shop that told you no balance weights are required.

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Just yesterday I had my second set of tires installed using Ride-on for balancing. My tires are Dunlop E3 250's rear, 120's front. Two bottles of Ride-on went into the rear and one in the front. Anyone who has hefted an 8 oz bottle of this stuff knows its SG is low for a liquid,, much less than water.

Anyhow, in 4 tires now, its worked perfectly, as a balancing agent, although I have no idea how effective it is at sealing punctures. It only distributes itself around the center of the tire so can't possibly protect sidewalls at all. I've gone to 100 mph on Ride-on. I'll never use weights again. My $0.02.

I can't find the detailed instructions for installing Ride-on but here is a clip showing instructions for a similar product:



,,,,,, . Seriously, our local HD Dealer has Ride-on in bulk and offers it as an option to tire customers and the Indy who installs mine has no issues with it, ( 1 in front, 2 in back).
 

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Old May 11, 2017 | 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by JimGnitecki
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I wasn't being serious.
 
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Old May 11, 2017 | 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by HKMark23
Just yesterday I had my second set of tires installed using Ride-on for balancing. My tires are Dunlop E3 250's rear, 120's front. Two bottles of Ride-on went into the rear and one in the front. Anyone who has hefted an 8 oz bottle of this stuff knows its SG is low for a liquid,, much less than water.

Anyhow, in 4 tires now, its worked perfectly, as a balancing agent, although I have no idea how effective it is at sealing punctures. It only distributes itself around the center of the tire so can't possibly protect sidewalls at all. I've gone to 100 mph on Ride-on. I'll never use weights again. My $0.02.

,,,,,, . Seriously, our local HD Dealer has Ride-on in bulk and offers it as an option to tire customers and the Indy who installs mine has no issues with it, ( 1 in front, 2 in back).
When I put applied it, the rear tire only had a few thousand miles left on it. The wheel had no weights and I too put 2 bottles in. It shook violently above 60mph. Maybe it was the old tire? Not sure, but I didn't end up putting it in when I put new rubber on. I may give it a shot again since you had good luck with it.

A lot of people use them on touring bikes. Some piece of mind if you ever roll over something on the contact patch. Less likely to leave you stranded on the road.
 
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Old May 11, 2017 | 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by UHDhog
When I put applied it, the rear tire only had a few thousand miles left on it. The wheel had no weights and I too put 2 bottles in. It shook violently above 60mph. Maybe it was the old tire? Not sure, but I didn't end up putting it in when I put new rubber on. I may give it a shot again since you had good luck with it.

A lot of people use them on touring bikes. Some piece of mind if you ever roll over something on the contact patch. Less likely to leave you stranded on the road.
This is taken directly from the Ride-on site. As mentioned above, I've personally tested it to 100 mph though not in the tires I had put on just yesterday.

Balancing and Ride and Stability Issues

The product manufactured by our leading competitor was originally designed for use in bicycle tires, and according to their website is “not intended for speeds in excess of 65 mph”. Ride-On is designed to actually help hydrodynamically balance tires at highway speeds. Once installed in a tire, it will actually act to dampen vibrations for the life of a tire so you do not need periodic rebalancing. Although we don’t condone speeding, our dealers and customers comment that their bikes actually run smoother at speeds as high as 150 mph. Once installed, you should not try to rebalance a tire containing Ride-On – just let it do what it is was formulated to do!

Here is the site:

http://www.ride-on.com/motorcycle-formula-mot.html


Anyhow, best of luck with your next trial.


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I've used that Ride On stuff three times so far. Two front tires, one rear. All Dunlop E3's. It seems to work fine. The dude who mounted the second front tire said the goop in my first E3 was no biggie to deal with.

I have whacked - and I mean WHACKED - a few potholes this spring - bent the damn front wheel. I'm sure my front wheel would have been knocked out of balance if it had lead weights on it. It's bent, but it's smooooth and I'm still ridin' it, lol....

 
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Originally Posted by bodgie1307
Hunter does this apply if your chroming the trees or will bearing need to be removed ?

I assume if bearing has to be removed then ill have to replace so can i get the cups out without the factory tool as in manual ?
Bearings stay with the frame, so taking the trees off to be chromed should not effect them
 
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I've used that Ride On stuff three times so far. Two front tires, one rear. All Dunlop E3's. It seems to work fine. The dude who mounted the second front tire said the goop in my first E3 was no biggie to deal with.

I have whacked - and I mean WHACKED - a few potholes this spring - bent the damn front wheel. I'm sure my front wheel would have been knocked out of balance if it had lead weights on it. It's bent, but it's smooooth and I'm still ridin' it, lol....

NSR, have you tried other brands of tire besides the OEM's and Dunlop E3's ? There are plenty of glowing recommendations for brands like Avon, Michelin, Pirelli and even Metzeler but little is said about the E3's it seems.

I've only ridden OEM's and E3's myself and all I can say, therefore, is that I'm so happy with the E3's that I'm simply not inspired to search for something,,, better ??,,, particularly something higher priced. I'm of the impression that most who have recommended other brands haven't ridden E3's and just gotten away from Dunlop after lousy OEM experiences.

I'd be very interested in hearing from someone who has actually ridden on E3's, like yourself, and perhaps also on one of the pricier European alternatives. I suspect that the Dunlop E3's are a very underrated tire. It stands to reason, after all, that people may erroneously eschew Dunlop after OEM experiences and don't know what they've missed in overlooking E3's.

What say you ?
 
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Old May 12, 2017 | 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by HKMark23
NSR, have you tried other brands of tire besides the OEM's and Dunlop E3's ? There are plenty of glowing recommendations for brands like Avon, Michelin, Pirelli and even Metzeler but little is said about the E3's it seems.

I've only ridden OEM's and E3's myself and all I can say, therefore, is that I'm so happy with the E3's that I'm simply not inspired to search for something,,, better ??,,, particularly something higher priced. I'm of the impression that most who have recommended other brands haven't ridden E3's and just gotten away from Dunlop after lousy OEM experiences.

I'd be very interested in hearing from someone who has actually ridden on E3's, like yourself, and perhaps also on one of the pricier European alternatives. I suspect that the Dunlop E3's are a very underrated tire. It stands to reason, after all, that people may erroneously eschew Dunlop after OEM experiences and don't know what they've missed in overlooking E3's.

What say you ?
I haven't tried the other options, but I think there's lots of people here who've said a lot of great things about the e3s as a whole. I think most people here recognize that and the value is phenomenal.
 
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Old May 12, 2017 | 07:17 AM
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I haven't tried the other options, but I think there's lots of people here who've said a lot of great things about the e3s as a whole. I think most people here recognize that and the value is phenomenal.
As have I; but without benefit of having actually ridden on say an Avon for example as well, do I really know the Avon 250 wouldn't be worth an extra $100 (with tax) Cdn. over the E3 250 ? I'm fairly confident it wouldn't justify such a premium but I really don't know,, which is why I'm asking.
 
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NSR, have you tried other brands of tire besides the OEM's and Dunlop E3's ? There are plenty of glowing recommendations for brands like Avon, Michelin, Pirelli and even Metzeler but little is said about the E3's it seems.

I've only ridden OEM's and E3's myself and all I can say, therefore, is that I'm so happy with the E3's that I'm simply not inspired to search for something,,, better ??,,, particularly something higher priced. I'm of the impression that most who have recommended other brands haven't ridden E3's and just gotten away from Dunlop after lousy OEM experiences.

I'd be very interested in hearing from someone who has actually ridden on E3's, like yourself, and perhaps also on one of the pricier European alternatives. I suspect that the Dunlop E3's are a very underrated tire. It stands to reason, after all, that people may erroneously eschew Dunlop after OEM experiences and don't know what they've missed in overlooking E3's.

What say you ?
I've only tried the Dunlops so far. Next is either Metzler or Pirelli.
 
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