ignition module options 1986 XL
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ignition module options 1986 XL
I did a thread on diagnosing my no spark after a long storage, 1986 XL883 (built up to 1200)
First year EVO with VOES (no mechanical advance)
Chasing the last spark I saw I worked through all the diagnosis from battery, wiring, grounds...etc everything.
I did find a failing Cam sensor, but after verifying module 12v to coil, power to sensor, and signal voltage from sensor still no spark.
Finally landed on the test to manually trigger the module and it failed several attempts.
This bike is built and chopped, so I don't need maximum hot-rod tuning, just spark. ha.
Now I am looking for options.
I have a buddy who has one or two SE modules for his old 5 speed sporty (92 maybe), not sure if those would work or could be wired in.
Anyone know how interchangeable the stock or SE external modules are?
There is precious little space to mount stuff on this Paughco frame so a cone ignition is attractive.
I know the cone modules like the TwinTec 1005 would work (i think it does NOT require mechanical advance?), Pricey
I looked at the Compufire unit, seem reputable enough and less $$$, but like the TwinTec VTi it requires a mechanical advance conversion.
and I have read a lot about avoiding the Ultima
Thought I would ask for advice while I clean up the shop and research more
Thanks to all
First year EVO with VOES (no mechanical advance)
Chasing the last spark I saw I worked through all the diagnosis from battery, wiring, grounds...etc everything.
I did find a failing Cam sensor, but after verifying module 12v to coil, power to sensor, and signal voltage from sensor still no spark.
Finally landed on the test to manually trigger the module and it failed several attempts.
This bike is built and chopped, so I don't need maximum hot-rod tuning, just spark. ha.
Now I am looking for options.
I have a buddy who has one or two SE modules for his old 5 speed sporty (92 maybe), not sure if those would work or could be wired in.
Anyone know how interchangeable the stock or SE external modules are?
There is precious little space to mount stuff on this Paughco frame so a cone ignition is attractive.
I know the cone modules like the TwinTec 1005 would work (i think it does NOT require mechanical advance?), Pricey
I looked at the Compufire unit, seem reputable enough and less $$$, but like the TwinTec VTi it requires a mechanical advance conversion.
and I have read a lot about avoiding the Ultima
Thought I would ask for advice while I clean up the shop and research more
Thanks to all
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I would go with the Dynatek 2000i. I replaced my compufire ignition (failed but had been on the bike a long time) with a Dynatek S but recently went back to the voes and a Dynatek 2000i. Great module. Super easy to install and setup. Of the 3 I have had on the bike the 2000i is hands down the best. I could never tune out the pinging with the Compufire or Dynatek S. With the 2000i I can set it so there is no pinging during a quick transition from mid throttle to WOT.
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BTW the last test on the module was at the sensor connector. Repeatedly shorting green and black wires to trigger a spark. I varied the frequency of shorts using jumper, but no spark.
I see a lot of Dyna 2000i cheap, but they are single fire. The Compu Fire Elite 1 works with VOES but costs at least 200 bucks.
Unbranded units that claim to be 2ki are abundant, but don't inspire confidence
I see a lot of Dyna 2000i cheap, but they are single fire. The Compu Fire Elite 1 works with VOES but costs at least 200 bucks.
Unbranded units that claim to be 2ki are abundant, but don't inspire confidence
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stumbled on some answers finally in forum search, Stock modules 32410 with any suffix will work if wired to correct connectors.
SE modules dont seem to apply to pre-1988
Took me a lot of searches, maybe losing my interweb abilities...
So I reckon it comes down to recommendations.
SE modules dont seem to apply to pre-1988
Took me a lot of searches, maybe losing my interweb abilities...
So I reckon it comes down to recommendations.
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Dynatek
I would go with the Dynatek 2000i. I replaced my compufire ignition (failed but had been on the bike a long time) with a Dynatek S but recently went back to the voes and a Dynatek 2000i. Great module. Super easy to install and setup. Of the 3 I have had on the bike the 2000i is hands down the best. I could never tune out the pinging with the Compufire or Dynatek S. With the 2000i I can set it so there is no pinging during a quick transition from mid throttle to WOT.
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BTW the last test on the module was at the sensor connector. Repeatedly shorting green and black wires to trigger a spark. I varied the frequency of shorts using jumper, but no spark.
I see a lot of Dyna 2000i cheap, but they are single fire. The Compu Fire Elite 1 works with VOES but costs at least 200 bucks.
Unbranded units that claim to be 2ki are abundant, but don't inspire confidence
I see a lot of Dyna 2000i cheap, but they are single fire. The Compu Fire Elite 1 works with VOES but costs at least 200 bucks.
Unbranded units that claim to be 2ki are abundant, but don't inspire confidence
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$230 seems right. If it says Dyna on the unit it is correct. You just have to look because they refer to the Ultima units as "Dyna" like so
https://americanclassicmotors.com/products/141637555572
I am sure they do this to confuse people into buying their version. The Dynatek ignition moduke is Blue and says Dyna on it.
https://americanclassicmotors.com/products/141637555572
I am sure they do this to confuse people into buying their version. The Dynatek ignition moduke is Blue and says Dyna on it.
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I got a good enuff deal on the Ultima branded unit and was surprised how easy it installed, timed in exactly where my cam sensor did, and fired up instantly (after the dead revs)... Chopper Lives. Just ran it once down the road and getting set to change all the fluids.
I will revive this thread in a while after putting some miles on it.
I will revive this thread in a while after putting some miles on it.
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