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Power Commander versus Fuel-Pak
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Power Commander versus Fuel-Pak
My 2007 Road King will be here in 2 weeks and I need some advice. I already plan on having the dealer install the Screaming Eagle air cleaner, V&H True Duals and V&H Oval Mufflers before I pick it up. I talked with the dealer about installing the V&H Fuel Pak. I've been reading several posts here and looking at the web sites to study theoptions, but, I need to make a decision soon. I like the idea of getting the numbers from V&H and not needing a computer to setup the Fuel-Pak. The dealer is pushing the Power Commander as a better alternative. They are also recommending a Custom Map at 1000 miles at a cost of $250. The Power Commander has some control over engine timing and would seem to eliminate the need to buy an aftermarket ignition.
I am a little concerned about buying the Power Commander and being locked into having the dealer do another custom map if a change is made. I'm not planning any other changes anytime soon.
Would appreciate any experience from others on which way to go.
Andy
I am a little concerned about buying the Power Commander and being locked into having the dealer do another custom map if a change is made. I'm not planning any other changes anytime soon.
Would appreciate any experience from others on which way to go.
Andy
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RE: Power Commander versus Fuel-Pak
Hey Andy do a search on both here there is alot of good info!
I was concerned about the PC and the start up delay so I went with the fuel pak and really like it.
But I'm no pro I just wanted something to help with the lean\heat issue and alow me to open up the Air flow too. I don't plan on doing more to the motor anythie soon either.
I was concerned about the PC and the start up delay so I went with the fuel pak and really like it.
But I'm no pro I just wanted something to help with the lean\heat issue and alow me to open up the Air flow too. I don't plan on doing more to the motor anythie soon either.
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RE: Power Commander versus Fuel-Pak
If all your going to do is pipes and air flow, for the money, go with the fuelpak, If yuor ever going to do engine mods, you will need the PC so you can dyno. I have about 1000 miles now with the pak and love the way it runs. 2 bills vs. close to 5 bills, with the pc and download. (????) my 2 cents.
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You'll have alot more tunable options down the road with a PCIII.
I think for the extra $100 you're better off with the PCIII.
I got good results with Rineharts, PCIII and a Green HP filter. Ended up with 73hp and 81ft/lb of torque out of the 88ci.
Next week my SE goes in
I think for the extra $100 you're better off with the PCIII.
I got good results with Rineharts, PCIII and a Green HP filter. Ended up with 73hp and 81ft/lb of torque out of the 88ci.
Next week my SE goes in
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From: Dallas, Tx
RE: Power Commander versus Fuel-Pak
I to went with the Fuelpak and like it but I only have 100 miles on it. If you do not plan to go into the engine then you are safe with the Fuelpak. The FP uses the existing o2 sensors unlike the PCIII and SERT and is super easy to install.
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RE: Power Commander versus Fuel-Pak
ORIGINAL: Andy Engemann
My 2007 Road King will be here in 2 weeks and I need some advice. I already plan on having the dealer install the Screaming Eagle air cleaner, V&H True Duals and V&H Oval Mufflers before I pick it up. I talked with the dealer about installing the V&H Fuel Pak. I've been reading several posts here and looking at the web sites to study theoptions, but, I need to make a decision soon. I like the idea of getting the numbers from V&H and not needing a computer to setup the Fuel-Pak. The dealer is pushing the Power Commander as a better alternative. They are also recommending a Custom Map at 1000 miles at a cost of $250. The Power Commander has some control over engine timing and would seem to eliminate the need to buy an aftermarket ignition.
I am a little concerned about buying the Power Commander and being locked into having the dealer do another custom map if a change is made. I'm not planning any other changes anytime soon.
My 2007 Road King will be here in 2 weeks and I need some advice. I already plan on having the dealer install the Screaming Eagle air cleaner, V&H True Duals and V&H Oval Mufflers before I pick it up. I talked with the dealer about installing the V&H Fuel Pak. I've been reading several posts here and looking at the web sites to study theoptions, but, I need to make a decision soon. I like the idea of getting the numbers from V&H and not needing a computer to setup the Fuel-Pak. The dealer is pushing the Power Commander as a better alternative. They are also recommending a Custom Map at 1000 miles at a cost of $250. The Power Commander has some control over engine timing and would seem to eliminate the need to buy an aftermarket ignition.
I am a little concerned about buying the Power Commander and being locked into having the dealer do another custom map if a change is made. I'm not planning any other changes anytime soon.
Another plan would be to call Jamie at Fuel Moto (www.fuelmotousa.com) and purchase the entire package from them. Doing so will land you a canned map, created from a real dyno tune on an exact configuration, that is flashed into the PCIII's EPROM before you get it. A pleasant side-effect is that the package will likely be much cheaper than the price your dealer will sell it to you for. You can load the PCIII software on your computer and do tweaks of your own to the cruise range for better gas mileage, like I did, if you're so inclined.
Some say a custom dyno tune with DJ's Tuning Link software produces a better effect, but I can't imagine this bike running better this close to stock form. If you do go with the PCIII and have your dealer do the custom tune, make sure they have the Tuning Link software, as many don't, and if not I wouldn't do it.
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RE: Power Commander versus Fuel-Pak
First thing, there is no aftermarket ignition, its EFI, that is all controlled in the ECM. If these are the extent of your mods fuel pak will do fine. Another plus, no 3-4 second delay in the engine starting that you WILL have with the PCIII and you dont block of the 02s with the fuel pack, then theres the 100.00 less cost (ebay dealers sell fuel pack for 189.00) On the other hand, PCIII can be dynotuned to get perfect performance provided you get the right guy tuning it and if later you do other mods you can have it re dynoed to that setup.
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RE: Power Commander versus Fuel-Pak
I have both. My Fuel Pak is on a 2000 RKC with a 95 kit. The PC111 is on a 2007 Ultra with a 103. I have never liked the fuel pak. Thereare probably improvements to the later versions but the2000 version was adjusted with a screw and was only adjustable for low, med, and high rpm (3adjustments). ThePCiii allows for fuel and timing adjustments in250 rpm increments and on eachcylinder independently. A lot more flexability and wont limit you WHEN you make more changes. You know you are gonna.
Those auto tunes are even better ....Ka ching!
Again my Fuel Pak is older...just my .02.
Those auto tunes are even better ....Ka ching!
Again my Fuel Pak is older...just my .02.
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just installed pc3 v&h header pipes thunderheader slipons and k&n filter kit on 07 SG and this thing runs like a different bike it was like going from a v6 to v8 pc3 from fuelmoto the map was dead on see no need for dyno tune I have no decel pop or any ill effects checked mpg 39 but I've been in the gas heavy I'ts awesome more fun to ride more power and the sound is great $1173.00 well spent if your on the fence on this just do and you'll have no regrets.
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