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Old Apr 20, 2016 | 06:32 AM
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It's a good thing you have overhanging exhaust; hell, if you didn't, you'd be scraping up your frame!

So refreshing to see someone post pictures of our bikes being handled like a boss...
It's been stated many times that the bikes can do it. Question really is... can you?

Props OP.
 
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Old Apr 20, 2016 | 06:48 AM
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Originally Posted by todd-67
I am not real sure where you are going with this. The problem exists with the bike leaned over so the measurement would be in degree's from the contact patch of the tire and bottom of the header. It is majorly amplified by the stock suspension compressing too much without recovering. There are more than one person reporting issues.

I hear what you are saying about pushing it but some times on unfamiliar corners with dips and bumps in them I would rather not introduce a potential problem. The floor boards are hinged to give you a warning shot and they should touch before the pipes or frame.
^^This!^^


Again, I REALLY appreciate ALL the input, including the ones that think I shouldn't ride on the edge. However, I do. I know this. The average HD rider doesn't ride like I do. I'm ok with that as long as they let me pass when I get behind them. I let faster bikes pass. My engine isn't built like most HDs. My peak torque comes at 4000 and peak HP at 6100. I run my bike at 3200-5500RPMs when I riding the twisties. Most HD riders shift under 4000. My redline is 6200. I like riding that way, and as the quoted poster states...I don't want the extra variable issue. Floorboards give...headers don't so much. So, my fault for not researching the headers better before I made the choice. I knew they were an issue of sorts, but didn't know just how much. I had a buddy ride mine this past weekend. He has a 2010 Ltd with V&H true duals. He rides like I do. He said same thing. Lean angle to the right is noticeably less. Good suggestions here on new headers and suspension to remedy the issue.
 
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Old Apr 20, 2016 | 07:00 AM
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Originally Posted by lp
It's a good thing you have overhanging exhaust; hell, if you didn't, you'd be scraping up your frame!

So refreshing to see someone post pictures of our bikes being handled like a boss...
It's been stated many times that the bikes can do it. Question really is... can you?

Props OP.
Thanks, my enjoyment comes in riding hard. I've taken both an intro and advanced rider coarse. I have some experience riding. I've been given techniques and "tools". I ride with experienced/better riders, and some on more capable motorcycles. I push myself, but I back off when I get uncomfortable, or if I lose my rhythm, or I think my mental focus is waning. I get better every time I ride hard, and intend to get better each time I ride. And yes, most riders can't do what their bike is capable of, and HDs are far more capable than most give them credit for. I'm not sure I can ride it to it's limits. I know that my current set up further impedes the limits of an already limited motorcycle.
 
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Old Apr 20, 2016 | 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by todd-67
I am not real sure where you are going with this. The problem exists with the bike leaned over so the measurement would be in degree's from the contact patch of the tire and bottom of the header. It is majorly amplified by the stock suspension compressing too much without recovering. There are more than one person reporting issues.

I hear what you are saying about pushing it but some times on unfamiliar corners with dips and bumps in them I would rather not introduce a potential problem. The floor boards are hinged to give you a warning shot and they should touch before the pipes or frame.
I posted the picture showing how I measured the 3/4" hoping someone with a different header would make the same measurement and post the difference.

I think we are all aware of why the pipes are dragging and I keep seeing the image of that lucky bastard on the white street glide who wrecked trying to run with the go fast bikes

Hell here it is:
 
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Old Apr 22, 2016 | 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by lefty33
You may want to look at the S&S Power Tune Duals. No experience with them but have heard a lot of good reviews. Running a de-catted head pipe myself right now and happy with it. Personally I don't care for the look of the V&H and when I'm ready to change out my head pipe, the S&S is what I will be going with.

Check'm out: http://www.sscycle.com/product/Power...ls-p24003.html
While shopping for headpipes, I read a number of times about the V&H doing exactly what the OP has. I went with the S&S for that reason. My left side floorboard looks like the OP's also, but so far the S&S has been the golden ticket.
 
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Old Apr 22, 2016 | 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Vernal
...I keep seeing the image of that lucky bastard on the white street glide who wrecked trying to run with the go fast bikes

Hell here it is:
Harley Davidson Lowside Motorcycle Crash - YouTube
Though if he would have shifted his weight inboard instead of outboard, he might have made it.



Easy to say, harder to do. Our natural instinct is to pull back from something that frightens us, not lean into it.
 
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Old Apr 22, 2016 | 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by foxtrapper
Though if he would have shifted his weight inboard instead of outboard, he might have made it.
that video clip is a quick study on everything wrong, position which way he is looking, and the "awesome bike styling" which reduces the abilities and control.

anyone who isn;t quite sure what we are saying should watch that a few times over

mike
 
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Old Apr 22, 2016 | 04:10 PM
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that video clip is a quick study on everything wrong, position which way he is looking, and the "awesome bike styling" which reduces the abilities and control. anyone who isn;t quite sure what we are saying should watch that a few times over mike
The "awesome bike styling" has nothing to do with the abilities or control of the bike itself. It boils down to personal abilities, not personal taste in add ons.
 
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Definitely the pipe. We rented a Limited that had that same pipe on it and I damn near ground that shield right off the bike. I was pretty worried they were going to ding me when I returned the bike. Thankfully they didn't. But I sure did take note that it was definitely not going to be my pipe of choice for my own bike.

Our glam shot from the Dragon. The Fatcat didn't touch. Floorboards.....'nuther story.


PS - get the heck away from that double yellow. Car comes the other way it will be a buzz kill.
 
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Old Apr 22, 2016 | 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by mkguitar
that video clip is a quick study on everything wrong, position which way he is looking, and the "awesome bike styling" which reduces the abilities and control.

anyone who isn;t quite sure what we are saying should watch that a few times over

mike
Yes, there were techniques he could have employed that could have save him from the low side for sure. Looked like he might have been trying to use some trail braking. From the sound it also sounded like he could have come off the throttle some too.

That said, the bike does have limits as well, but they were not the cause of that crash in the video.
 
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