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Old Apr 25, 2018 | 07:12 AM
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Question timing cover screw broken (2)

I replaced my derby screws to chrome with no issue. So now I was changing the timing cover screws (5) to chrome. I have a 2012 CVO ultra and thought it would just look a little better. So top 3 screws no problem. Went to do the 2 bottom and both snapped. One of them has a small bit of screw sticking out but the other is snapped off just inside. It looks like water gets inside and sits up to the level of the 2 screws because they are rusted in. I put some penetrating fluid on them already and will re do it again. When i took the timing cover off I noticed it just a cover over a empty space with no access to anything because its sealed. Makes no sense to me, should just be a one piece cover. A few of my friends said they can easy out the screw but how difficult is it doing on the bike? they are small screws. Or would the dealer do it without removing cover. any help is great Jeff
 
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Old Apr 25, 2018 | 07:24 AM
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I had the same issue several years ago. I tried to drill the broken screws off while the cover was on the bike. You could try it but, I think you will have much better luck with the cover removed. I eventually replaced the cover on my bike. I didn't have the issue with rust. The screws on my bike had loctite applied to them.
 
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Old Apr 25, 2018 | 07:41 AM
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First of all, OP, relax. We got you on this. Because this is the Cover to Nowhere, this job becomes much easier. First of all, with regard to the screws, the screw that is sticking out is a fairly easy deal. See if you can grab it with a pair of small vice grips and twist it out. If you can't do that, see if you can file or saw a small slot across it, and twist it out with a screwdriver.

If none of these work, then because it's the Cover to Nowhere, simply use adhesive to attach the heads of the screws that you want to use on to the holes that the stuck screws are in, and use the screws from the new cover to screw on the rest of the screws for the cover. You can actually use RTV silicone, epoxy, or any other adhesive that you choose to.

Easy peasy!
 
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Old Apr 25, 2018 | 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Veekness
First of all, OP, relax. We got you on this. Because this is the Cover to Nowhere, this job becomes much easier. First of all, with regard to the screws, the screw that is sticking out is a fairly easy deal. See if you can grab it with a pair of small vice grips and twist it out. If you can't do that, see if you can file or saw a small slot across it, and twist it out with a screwdriver.

If none of these work, then because it's the Cover to Nowhere, simply use adhesive to attach the heads of the screws that you want to use on to the holes that the stuck screws are in, and use the screws from the new cover to screw on the rest of the screws for the cover. You can actually use RTV silicone, epoxy, or any other adhesive that you choose to.

Easy peasy!
 
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Old Apr 25, 2018 | 04:23 PM
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That cover is for your STASH!
 
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Old Apr 26, 2018 | 05:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Veekness
First of all, OP, relax. We got you on this. Because this is the Cover to Nowhere, this job becomes much easier. First of all, with regard to the screws, the screw that is sticking out is a fairly easy deal. See if you can grab it with a pair of small vice grips and twist it out. If you can't do that, see if you can file or saw a small slot across it, and twist it out with a screwdriver.

If none of these work, then because it's the Cover to Nowhere, simply use adhesive to attach the heads of the screws that you want to use on to the holes that the stuck screws are in, and use the screws from the new cover to screw on the rest of the screws for the cover. You can actually use RTV silicone, epoxy, or any other adhesive that you choose to.

Easy peasy!
Just had same problem--a friend broke an easy out off trying to get screw out so now almost impossible to remove, and we came up with adhesive plan as above. In hindsight I think a reverse drill bit would have been the best chance to remove broken recessed screw, but prob not worth the effort regardless.
 
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Old Apr 26, 2018 | 06:23 AM
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I had the same problem. I tried to get it out with an ez out. No luck. I glued the head if a screw over the hole with some clear epoxy. Problem solved. You have two broken screws but it will still work. The 3 remaining screws will hold it on just fine. It's a decorative cover that allows you to customize the look of your cam cover.
 
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Old Apr 26, 2018 | 09:44 AM
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I'm lucky this has never happened to me....

I love the idea of just using adhesive to glue the bolt heads over the broken bolts. I also realize the cover seals/closes nothing... purely cosmetic...

BUT...

There is no way I could ride the bike (other than a get home fix) knowing that the cover isn't bolted as designed... Way back in my high school years, when someone would do a half-fix, or a short-cut repair, we would call it a "Mickey Mouse" repair... I have no idea where that phrase came from.

Yep, it would drive me nuts knowing I had covered two broken bolts with glued on bolt heads. Every time I would ride my bike, I'd hear the theme from the Mickey Mouse Club playing in my head.

Even if I had to buy a new cam chest cover, I would need to have everything bolted up properly...

It's not easy having motorcycle repair OCD....
 
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Originally Posted by hattitude
I'm lucky this has never happened to me....

I love the idea of just using adhesive to glue the bolt heads over the broken bolts. I also realize the cover seals/closes nothing... purely cosmetic...

BUT...

There is no way I could ride the bike (other than a get home fix) knowing that the cover isn't bolted as designed... Way back in my high school years, when someone would do a half-fix, or a short-cut repair, we would call it a "Mickey Mouse" repair... I have no idea where that phrase came from.

Yep, it would drive me nuts knowing I had covered two broken bolts with glued on bolt heads. Every time I would ride my bike, I'd hear the theme from the Mickey Mouse Club playing in my head.

Even if I had to buy a new cam chest cover, I would need to have everything bolted up properly...

It's not easy having motorcycle repair OCD....
Wow dude, I thought I had it bad!
 
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Old Apr 26, 2018 | 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by hattitude
I'm lucky this has never happened to me....

I love the idea of just using adhesive to glue the bolt heads over the broken bolts. I also realize the cover seals/closes nothing... purely cosmetic...

BUT...

There is no way I could ride the bike (other than a get home fix) knowing that the cover isn't bolted as designed... Way back in my high school years, when someone would do a half-fix, or a short-cut repair, we would call it a "Mickey Mouse" repair... I have no idea where that phrase came from.

Yep, it would drive me nuts knowing I had covered two broken bolts with glued on bolt heads. Every time I would ride my bike, I'd hear the theme from the Mickey Mouse Club playing in my head.

Even if I had to buy a new cam chest cover, I would need to have everything bolted up properly...

It's not easy having motorcycle repair OCD....
Ah, yes! The parts counter's dream! But hey...if that's the way ya feel, that's the say it is!!! If the cover actually did something beyond covered a vacant space, oh yeah, I'd feel your pain, for certain. In this case, only because it's the Cover To Nowhere would I suggest that admittedly Michael Rodent repair!


That said, I believe you'd play hob getting those itty bitty screws out of that cam cover, OP...if it doesn't work, then yep...it's all about a new cover. And really, they aren't all that expensive...
 
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