Solid Compensator
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From: Viet Vet, crossroads
Being S&S shows how much Torq to break a stock crank on a video, it is not going to happen.
I think it is around 2500 lbs of twist.
People like repeating crap.
In the Air Craft world, being they are disconnected from the ground vibration is a pretty big concern.
Strongly enough they still run 4 cylinder engines from 70 years ago, all day long around 2500 RPM. Some rated at full power output.!
Not just 3/4 power.
Being a Harley sees full power for a very limited time, has tractor crankshaft, I dont think a little compensator will make it live or die.
Simple as that.
If that is the life preserver for the V twin I think it would be self-destructing a LONG time ago.
Like I said- people have been deleting comps for over 40 years.
No doubt a scissored crank can be found somewhere...
Harley likes to sell parts..Does anyone know about their FKING stage kits?
Tell me again where this rumor starts about needing a comp?
LOL
I think it is around 2500 lbs of twist.
People like repeating crap.
In the Air Craft world, being they are disconnected from the ground vibration is a pretty big concern.
Strongly enough they still run 4 cylinder engines from 70 years ago, all day long around 2500 RPM. Some rated at full power output.!
Not just 3/4 power.
Being a Harley sees full power for a very limited time, has tractor crankshaft, I dont think a little compensator will make it live or die.
Simple as that.
If that is the life preserver for the V twin I think it would be self-destructing a LONG time ago.
Like I said- people have been deleting comps for over 40 years.
No doubt a scissored crank can be found somewhere...
Harley likes to sell parts..Does anyone know about their FKING stage kits?
Tell me again where this rumor starts about needing a comp?
LOL
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Joined: Dec 2009
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From: Osoyoos B C Canada
Like most I have been researching this for a while and i can not find one post saying that the lack of a compensating sprocket has cost them a crank , Not one
I will replace mine with a solid if and when it needs replacing
Very interesting to follow , thanks for the post
Dave
I will replace mine with a solid if and when it needs replacing
Very interesting to follow , thanks for the post
Dave
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Tourer
Joined: Jun 2016
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From: Florida
Been installed a week now. My primary chain tensioner was trashed, so that was replaced as well along with my clutch hub and inner primary bearings.
Start ups are crazy fast now, no hesitation at all. It's immediate from the time you press the starter. Didn't notice any difference at all during low speed riding, and no excessive vibration at cruising speeds. No "rocks shaking in a cardboard box" sound anymore at shutdown either.
The only thing I noticed was a more pronounced "whirly" sound from the primary. I believe it's the primary chain tensioner shoe breaking in though, not the compensator sprocket itself. Don't know if that's a "thing", just my guess.
Need some more miles on it, but all seems good so far.
Honestly, with 62k on the clock, if the crankshaft ends up scissoring, I'll just rebuild it to be bulletproof moving forward. I got a sweet deal on the bike, so even with a rebuild I'd be wayyy under the price of a new Road King anyway. Win-win for me.
Appreciate all the comments so far.
Start ups are crazy fast now, no hesitation at all. It's immediate from the time you press the starter. Didn't notice any difference at all during low speed riding, and no excessive vibration at cruising speeds. No "rocks shaking in a cardboard box" sound anymore at shutdown either.
The only thing I noticed was a more pronounced "whirly" sound from the primary. I believe it's the primary chain tensioner shoe breaking in though, not the compensator sprocket itself. Don't know if that's a "thing", just my guess.
Need some more miles on it, but all seems good so far.
Honestly, with 62k on the clock, if the crankshaft ends up scissoring, I'll just rebuild it to be bulletproof moving forward. I got a sweet deal on the bike, so even with a rebuild I'd be wayyy under the price of a new Road King anyway. Win-win for me.
Appreciate all the comments so far.
Been installed a week now. My primary chain tensioner was trashed, so that was replaced as well along with my clutch hub and inner primary bearings.
Start ups are crazy fast now, no hesitation at all. It's immediate from the time you press the starter. Didn't notice any difference at all during low speed riding, and no excessive vibration at cruising speeds. No "rocks shaking in a cardboard box" sound anymore at shutdown either.
The only thing I noticed was a more pronounced "whirly" sound from the primary. I believe it's the primary chain tensioner shoe breaking in though, not the compensator sprocket itself. Don't know if that's a "thing", just my guess.
Need some more miles on it, but all seems good so far.
Honestly, with 62k on the clock, if the crankshaft ends up scissoring, I'll just rebuild it to be bulletproof moving forward. I got a sweet deal on the bike, so even with a rebuild I'd be wayyy under the price of a new Road King anyway. Win-win for me.
Appreciate all the comments so far.
Start ups are crazy fast now, no hesitation at all. It's immediate from the time you press the starter. Didn't notice any difference at all during low speed riding, and no excessive vibration at cruising speeds. No "rocks shaking in a cardboard box" sound anymore at shutdown either.
The only thing I noticed was a more pronounced "whirly" sound from the primary. I believe it's the primary chain tensioner shoe breaking in though, not the compensator sprocket itself. Don't know if that's a "thing", just my guess.
Need some more miles on it, but all seems good so far.
Honestly, with 62k on the clock, if the crankshaft ends up scissoring, I'll just rebuild it to be bulletproof moving forward. I got a sweet deal on the bike, so even with a rebuild I'd be wayyy under the price of a new Road King anyway. Win-win for me.
Appreciate all the comments so far.
Road Master
Joined: Oct 2013
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From: Penticton BC Canada
I doubt the entire compensator, chain and clutch basket weighs in at 30 lbs, so how can a belt conversion lose 30lbs??
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From: Viet Vet, crossroads
You will LOSE!
Your lil flag lost the war
I weighed all my EVO stuff and the new belt stuff.
The total savings is 30lbs for BDL conversion.
Think about it
chain.
comp.
chain shoe
rear sprocket and clutch for all newer better parts
Which is a belt weighs almost nothing
front pully compared to a big chunk of iron called a compensator.
The rear sprocket for a very light pully and new style clutch
It is enough parts to fill a 5 QT oil drain pan for a car.
Thanx for the conviction on your part without knowing.