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Old Jun 10, 2019 | 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by 23Seven
It’s between 1st and 2nd regardless of my clutch adjustments or what fluids I use... It’s been like this on all my bikes
Lol yep it's always been between 1st and 2nd.
 
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Old Jun 10, 2019 | 04:00 PM
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The fluid level makes a difference, especially if there is to much in the primary. The linkage and the adjustment also effect how easy it is to find neutral. The stock linkage can get a lot of play in it after the bike gets older and one of the best upgrades is to put a heim joint (rod end bearing) on each end of the shift rod. That will take the slop out and, at least for me, I can feel the clicks into neutral better.
 
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Old Jun 10, 2019 | 04:03 PM
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Adjust the clutch...and experiment when backing off the adjuster, back off a little less, to keep less pressure on the plates...just do it doesn’t slip. Put HD Formula + in the primary.
 

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Old Jun 15, 2019 | 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Weeboy1
I use amsoil primary and this last change only filled as shown below.
nite and day difference with my 10 ultra.
shifts quieter too. i dont think its the fluid I think its the level. imho
Is that with the bike vertical, or on the jiffy stand?
 
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Old Jun 15, 2019 | 11:13 AM
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I agree with “the level”.

Recently picked up 2016 SGS and noticed it was a little hard to find neutral sometimes. I changed primary fluid and made sure I measured precise amount on refill. Now it hits neutral very naturally and easily. Noticeable improvement.
 
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Old Jun 15, 2019 | 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by defiantdadeo
Is that with the bike vertical, or on the jiffy stand?
Level.
 
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Old Jun 15, 2019 | 07:15 PM
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Make sure his shift rod between the lever and the transmission lever has free play like it was originally designed. If someone changed it to spherical fittings with a fancy looking aftermarket, that will cause big problems. When you tap the lever up from 1 as it is designed to do, you should not have to go all the way to neutral. As designed, the spring lever inside the transmission will pull it on in.

You need proper fluid and not too much, free play in cable and proper back off at clutch if it's not a hydraulic clutch.. However, if it's not pulling like crazy while in gear with the clutch pulled, it's probably something else.
If it has been changed out to spherical bearings, loosen the nut on both bearings slightly do it is free. See if that fixes the problem. Obiviously, you can't leave it like that. Get the proper loose class bearings. Plastic sleeve ones are too tight.







 

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