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Old Feb 11, 2020 | 10:47 AM
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So I have a 19 SGS and we are headed on a road trip this summer. I told the wife we would get headsets so we can talk and hear the radio on the bike. Boy did that take me down a rabbit hole. After finally picking a pair of headsets, I now find out that they can't communicate with the bike without a FreeWire or WHIM. WTH!!!

That brought me here.

Here's what we would like to do.

Both: Talk to each other
Me: Listen to Music/Navigation/My Phone Calls
Her: Listen to Music/Her Phone Calls

Should we just connect to our individual phones and leave the harley out of this mess?

Thanks

 
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Old Feb 11, 2020 | 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by ELo
So I have a 19 SGS and we are headed on a road trip this summer. I told the wife we would get headsets so we can talk and hear the radio on the bike. Boy did that take me down a rabbit hole. After finally picking a pair of headsets, I now find out that they can't communicate with the bike without a FreeWire or WHIM. WTH!!!

That brought me here.

Here's what we would like to do.

Both: Talk to each other
Me: Listen to Music/Navigation/My Phone Calls
Her: Listen to Music/Her Phone Calls

Should we just connect to our individual phones and leave the harley out of this mess?

Thanks
Doesn't the SGS have the hardwired system?
 
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Old Feb 11, 2020 | 04:20 PM
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It is frustrating, the way that the whim is not included.
The next point is that there are issues if the headsets are not Harley branded. Any headset that is not Harley branded is limited with connecting to car play, and plays music in mono rather than stereo.
If you have un-branded headsets, the freewire will work with them through the hardwired connections, but you would need one freewire for each headset.
You can, however, just use hardwired headsets and everything would work fine, but you are now tethered to the bike.
 
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Old Feb 11, 2020 | 05:03 PM
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SGS does not have the console for hard wired headsets. If you dont want to go the WHIM route, you could connect the headsets straight to your phones. If you go the FreeWire, as another said, you will need 2. I have the WHIM and it works very well for my needs with having full control of boom unit with hand controls. Good luck with your decision.
 
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Old Feb 11, 2020 | 05:23 PM
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There is much confusion about this.....what is it you want to accomplish? If it’s just to communicate with your wife, you don’t need anything except BT devices. If you want to be able to listen to different things.....you can pair to your phone, she can pair to hers and you can still communicate. It’s only of you want one or both to connect with the bike that any of this matters. Why not start with separate phone connections but the ability to communicate and from there, decide what you want to build.
 
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Old Feb 11, 2020 | 07:19 PM
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Yes, leave the bike out of it. You can do all you want to do without it. Only loss would be not listening to bikes radio, but you can stream through your phone so it isn’t needed. Easiest route with the least headaches in my opinion.
 
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Old Feb 12, 2020 | 07:56 AM
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all you need are two sena bt headsets.

SGS has no CB so no freewire needed.

edit: You will need freewire for bikes NAV, just use your phone on long trips, superier nav anyway. Or use nav on bike with the volume turned up. Music intercom and phone via bt.

edit again. To use the freewire on your SGS, you will need a harley cable inside the fairing that you would buy if you were going to put wired headsets on. Also a power port for the freewire. All these wires hid inside fairing, and the freewire gets pt on the handlebars down low out of sight.

Two SENA non-HD headsets
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Old Feb 12, 2020 | 08:03 AM
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I have pair of Cardo Pack Talk Bold...well actually I have one and my riding buddy has one. We can communicate back and forth. I have blue tooth to my phone so I can listen to my music. I suppose I could answer and use my phone with this set, but have no desire to take phone calls while riding. These are a bit expensive, but I believe well worth the money. I have spent a great deal of time checking Sena, Cardo, and a couple others. I found the Cardo on sale for what I thought was a decent price. So I believe you and your wife can use these, converse back and forth, set each one up to blue tooth your phone/I-pod/music device and each listen to your own choices. Good Luck on your search!!! Also do a search on here for these same questions....
 
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+1 on the Sena BT headsets. You didn't mention what headsets you purchased. We have a pair of Sena's and love them for traveling. We can open a communication link and talk to each other. With the communication link we can share audio, so we are both listening to the same thing. You can't talk over the music, you have to reengage the communication link. We each have our own phone connected which allows her to receive calls if she needs to. I use the phone for Nav so it comes through with the audio. All in all its a solid option.
 
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Old Feb 12, 2020 | 08:12 AM
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I use the phone for Nav so it comes through with the audio.
How do you get that to work? I have read many posts of audio not going over the BT link from Google maps.

I have a Samsung 'phone.
 
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