LED TSSM and brake lights
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LED TSSM and brake lights
I'd like to add more light in the back of my2001 FLHR. I do have the blinker brake light conversion. Are the LED brake lights brighter? Also not really sure where to start here..
I thnk my TSSM has been failing for about 10 years or atleast has some kind of hiccup. It flashes 4-5 times on start up, I have no secruity. So thinking about replacing. If do that I am wondering if I should get TSSM for LEDs so I don't have to use resistors. Which one?? Are there different types? Package units?
I have not kept up with LEDs because I really wasn't worried about reducing draw on charging system. Not like paying for wattage, and I havn't really added alot.
I thnk my TSSM has been failing for about 10 years or atleast has some kind of hiccup. It flashes 4-5 times on start up, I have no secruity. So thinking about replacing. If do that I am wondering if I should get TSSM for LEDs so I don't have to use resistors. Which one?? Are there different types? Package units?
I have not kept up with LEDs because I really wasn't worried about reducing draw on charging system. Not like paying for wattage, and I havn't really added alot.
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I'd like to add more light in the back of my2001 FLHR. I do have the blinker brake light conversion. Are the LED brake lights brighter? Also not really sure where to start here..
I thnk my TSSM has been failing for about 10 years or atleast has some kind of hiccup. It flashes 4-5 times on start up, I have no secruity. So thinking about replacing. If do that I am wondering if I should get TSSM for LEDs so I don't have to use resistors. Which one?? Are there different types? Package units?
I have not kept up with LEDs because I really wasn't worried about reducing draw on charging system. Not like paying for wattage, and I havn't really added alot.
The LED brake lights are much brighter than OEM, many have brightness levels you can select that are brighter than DOT standards.. My favorites are BAL-1 (bright *** lights) or Custom Dynamics..
You would significantly increase your visibility by changing to an LED brake light, and switching your turn signal bulbs to LED bulbs. You would need to add a load stabilizer (sometimes called an equalizer) to avoid hyperflash of the turn signals, but a load stabilizer is plug & play and an easy install.... There are several makers of the load stabilizers. Custom Dynamics has a good one, as is the Biketronics Smart Equalizer.
Just an FYI, to clear up some nomenclature... For your year Harley, they had two turn signal control modules. The TSM (Turn Signal Module) is for turn signals, with NO security. If you have security on your bike as an option, you will have a TSSM (Turn Signal Security Module). They are two different modules with two different installation protocols... Just off the top of my head, I believe the TSM can just be swapped out, while the TSSM has to go through a complicated procedure, dependent on year & whether you have an ICM or ECM, to marry it to the bike, ...
If you should decide to change out your module, I would suggest you do a good diagnosis first, to make sure the module is bad, then get the proper module for your application.
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It's the only stock electric left . I'll replace just on age eventually.
But if I am going to do it,could I get one that will prevent need for resistors.
As for tssm or tsm, I don't care. I got a parts manual.
But if I am going to do it,could I get one that will prevent need for resistors.
As for tssm or tsm, I don't care. I got a parts manual.
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Any diode can be light emitting once, depending on how it is hooked up. There are many types lightning is good but for some may not be the best choice perhaps. Maybe
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I have LED on my Sportster and Trike, helps maintain the battery so it lasts. You may get different results
A breakfast sandwich would be good if it had sausage and egg.
Some fresh brewed coffee also.
I have LED on my Sportster and Trike, helps maintain the battery so it lasts. You may get different results
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Bike is making it's own power. So if you ride it you won't wear about incandescent draining the battery. I find it funny the LED because they take less power idea for bikes. Maybe if you want to add a bunch of load. But these bikes have big stators now too.
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Just replaced a TSSM on a 2002 FLTR. New ones are getting hard to find. Obsolete from HD. Same with the clicker. Some dealers may still have one on shelf as part of a security system alarm upgrade from way back in the day. And yes, you have to do the hokey pokey to install yourself. Procedure outlined in electrical diagnostic manual.
Just get a TSM. Other ways to secure your bike..
Just get a TSM. Other ways to secure your bike..
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FYI, I thought I needed a TSM for my 2008 FLHT. Went to the dealer to find Harley says that part is "obsolete". My parts man called a LOT of dealers from the East coast to Idaho, where I am. Nobody had one. Ended up finding one at an Indy shop in Bremerton, Washington. Stock factory item, not aftermarket. Give Mariah a call. Rottweiler Bikes, 360-373-6777. Good luck.
