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Old Sep 11, 2022 | 10:43 AM
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Engine braking = Engine breaking

Its okay to decelerate with the drive gear engaged, but I wouldn’t use the engine/transmission to slow down… thats what brakes are for!
New to this aren't you, it shows with that comment.

Believe the myth if it works for you but please refrain from from spreading the bullshit.
 
Old Sep 11, 2022 | 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by GOGOBECK
Engine braking = Engine breaking

Its okay to decelerate with the drive gear engaged, but I wouldn’t use the engine/transmission to slow down… thats what brakes are for!
Please explain.
 
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Old Sep 11, 2022 | 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by TwiZted Biker
New to this aren't you, it shows with that comment.

Believe the myth if it works for you but please refrain from from spreading the bullshit.
I'm glad you said it first Twisted. I just can't respond to this. WTF has happened to having brains.....
 
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Old Sep 11, 2022 | 11:13 AM
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The minute you take your foot off the gas in any vehicle you are engine braking
With a MC it happens much faster
There are signs all over aimed at 18 wheelers to not use engine braking as it makes noise
You have to down shift as you slow down to be in the proper gear to then keep going at the proper speed in the proper gear
 

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Old Sep 11, 2022 | 11:14 AM
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I always downshift when coming to a stop unless I need to stop very quickly. If I have to stop very quickly, or unexpectedly for any reason, I pull in the clutch, actuate the brakes and, at the same time, gear down into 1st so I am ready to roll again as soon as possible. Same thing as emergency braking I guess.

The only time I bring the clutch in and kind of "coast", or play in the friction zone, is when I'm turning from one street to another at slower speeds (40 to 50 kph), like in the city or suburbs. You have far more control over the bike in slower turns if you are in the friction zone. This is true because in the city, or suburbs, you are usually turning from one street to another in 2nd gear and many motorcycles are super-jumpy in 2nd gear meaning that, if you get on the throttle too aggressively in a turn, you might go right off the road or crash into an oncoming car, especially if you are prone to target fixation. Becoming proficient at slow speed riding skills really helps with your turns, at all speeds, because you master entering and exiting the friction zone.
 
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Old Sep 11, 2022 | 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by DaveyFB
The minute you take your foot off the gas in any vehicle you are engine braking
With a MC it happens much faster
There are signs all over aimed at 18 wheelers to not use engine braking as it makes noise
You have to down shift as you slow down to be in the proper gear to then keep going at the proper speed in the proper gear
Those signs are specifically for "Truckers" with the diesel compression brake. Also known as The Jake Brake. Jake is a brand name and often misused whenever anyone refers to a compression brake and the associated noise which has nothing to do with the gears in a transmission. It actually opens up a valve in the exhaust port which explains why it's so loud. Opening the exhaust port valve (compression brake) reduces...wait for it....compression! Thereby slowing the engine down. Gawd I hope I got this right otherwise the experts will have my butt in a sling. My meds are kicking it already.
 
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Old Sep 11, 2022 | 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by GOGOBECK
Engine braking = Engine breaking

Its okay to decelerate with the drive gear engaged, but I wouldn’t use the engine/transmission to slow down… thats what brakes are for!
Good god I hope this was a joke.
 
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Old Sep 11, 2022 | 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by GOGOBECK
Engine braking = Engine breaking

Its okay to decelerate with the drive gear engaged, but I wouldn’t use the engine/transmission to slow down… thats what brakes are for!
Slow down anyway you want, just don't run into the back of me !

Downshifting and using engine braking is an effective way of slowing any vehicle down. People have been doing it since the invention of the wheel.
 
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Originally Posted by HanzoSteel
I always downshift when coming to a stop unless I need to stop very quickly. If I have to stop very quickly, or unexpectedly for any reason, I pull in the clutch, actuate the brakes and, at the same time, gear down into 1st so I am ready to roll again as soon as possible. Same thing as emergency braking I guess.
Same here, I'm downshifting and rev matching if need be when coming to a stop. unless it's an oh &*%$ kinda stop. Then I'm clutch in and on the brakes. Sometimes I'll go down through the gears as I'm clutch in but sometimes I'm not. It just kinda depends on my brain over load or not.
 
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