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Old Sep 11, 2022 | 06:09 PM
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I bring a boat anchor & toss that off the back to slow me down
Bitch part is every now & then it yanks me off the bike & the bike keeps going


 
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Old Sep 11, 2022 | 06:12 PM
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Sweet Jesus how the f**k do you clowns think we rode and stopped these things long before Harley finally figured out a working disc brake for them.
Hahaha. They think ya wore out 9 pair of boots a year?

 
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Old Sep 11, 2022 | 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by brakeless
Then why does every Harley I've ever owned downshift with less shock when I rev match?
Without watching what you do, I’d say your simply finding clutch engagement smoother.

A dog box does what it does.
 
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Old Sep 11, 2022 | 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by DaveyFB
I bring a boat anchor & toss that off the back to slow me down
Bitch part is every now & then it yanks me off the bike & the bike keeps going
See that's where you went wrong. You shouldn't have tossed it. And it probably doesn't help that you tied the rope to yourself.
 
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Old Sep 11, 2022 | 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by foxtrapper
Without watching what you do, I’d say your simply finding clutch engagement smoother.

A dog box does what it does.
Maybe the sound of the motor revving, or getting blipped, overwhelms the shock I feel.
 
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Old Sep 11, 2022 | 09:19 PM
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Time for Harley to come out with an automatic transmission.
We can't get two people to agree on how to come up to a stop with these baffling manual transmissions.
 
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Old Sep 11, 2022 | 10:04 PM
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Gawd just buy a convertible sports car with an automatic transmission. Won't have to worry about falling over too. And if you continue to ride on two wheels, stay away from me.
 
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Old Sep 12, 2022 | 12:00 AM
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Originally Posted by DaveyFB
The minute you take your foot off the gas in any vehicle you are engine braking
With a MC it happens much faster
There are signs all over aimed at 18 wheelers to not use engine braking as it makes noise
You have to down shift as you slow down to be in the proper gear to then keep going at the proper speed in the proper gear
The engine braking that those signs are referring to is telling truck drivers to not use their Jake Brake. It’s engine braking, but not as cars and MC’s know.
 
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Old Sep 12, 2022 | 12:10 AM
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Originally Posted by foxtrapper
You actually can’t rev match with these transmissions.

Our bikes use a simple dog box transmission. There are no synchronizers, just simple dogs. There’s no active neutral between gears, they spring load from one to the next.

An automotive transmission, with synchronizers and an active neutral between each gear can be rev matched. You put the transmission into neutral, release the clutch, use the throttle to rev up the input shaft until the gear speeds match, and downshift. Or, just let the synchronizers do it, as they’re designed to.
Automobile transmissions with or without synchros can be rev matched just as automatic transmissions can and as our Harley’s can. You’re talking about “double clutching” by going into neutral and spinning up the input shaft to eliminate grinding into the next gear. Rev matching is matching your RPM’s to the gear your going into based on the speed of your vehicle. Most important while going into a corner while slowing and downshifting,and not letting the rear tire wash out.
 
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Old Sep 12, 2022 | 03:47 AM
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Originally Posted by GOGOBECK
Engine braking = Engine breaking

Its okay to decelerate with the drive gear engaged, but I wouldn’t use the engine/transmission to slow down… thats what brakes are for!
That’s probably what the Asplundh truck on Route 19 going down the mountain thought. I could smell his brakes burning. It doesn’t harm the engine to use engine braking, especially if you rev match. It’s absolutely essential on going down a mountain.
 
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