Coasting vs deccelerating
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Yes, I agree with you about matching gearing to the conditions. But thats a different subject than what folk are describing.
There are plenty of folk who think they are spinning up the input shaft of the transmission by blipping their throttle when they pull in the clutch. All theyre spinning up is the outer clutch basket. The claims of a smoother downshift is probably poor clutch modulation on the release.
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Big trucks can be shifted throughout their ranges without using the clutch at all by simply matching rpm to speed.
The only time clutching is necessary is when coming to a stop or putting it into whatever gear is desired for rolling from a stop.
The only time clutching is necessary is when coming to a stop or putting it into whatever gear is desired for rolling from a stop.
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Which involves no throttle blipping or claims of downshifting better when blipping the throttle.
Yes, I agree with you about matching gearing to the conditions. But thats a different subject than what folk are describing.
There are plenty of folk who think they are spinning up the input shaft of the transmission by blipping their throttle when they pull in the clutch. All theyre spinning up is the outer clutch basket. The claims of a smoother downshift is probably poor clutch modulation on the release.
Yes, I agree with you about matching gearing to the conditions. But thats a different subject than what folk are describing.
There are plenty of folk who think they are spinning up the input shaft of the transmission by blipping their throttle when they pull in the clutch. All theyre spinning up is the outer clutch basket. The claims of a smoother downshift is probably poor clutch modulation on the release.
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I just leave it in the gear I am and wait until the last minute to apply brakes. Once stopped, then I usually stall the engine trying to get that foot shift thing down enough to get into first gear. You know, revving the engine, trying to find first gear, revving the engine.
It's what Harley riders do right???
Personally I down shift coming up to stop signs or lights. I use engine braking. I have control of bike, clutch, brakes, and speed. I use some common sense and experience. I don't understand some of the above comments and "suggestions"....but that's ok. I know what I'm doing, and can handle and control my motorcycle. Without all the revving, fast stops, and other "idiotic" things I see some riders doing.
And I hold my gas cap in my right hand, and use synthetic oil in engine, primary fluid in the primary, and gear oil in the trans.
It's what Harley riders do right???
Personally I down shift coming up to stop signs or lights. I use engine braking. I have control of bike, clutch, brakes, and speed. I use some common sense and experience. I don't understand some of the above comments and "suggestions"....but that's ok. I know what I'm doing, and can handle and control my motorcycle. Without all the revving, fast stops, and other "idiotic" things I see some riders doing.
And I hold my gas cap in my right hand, and use synthetic oil in engine, primary fluid in the primary, and gear oil in the trans.
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But the real question is would you put apes on a shark or a batwing? And if so, would they be above the fairing?
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just in case it needs to be said, I'm only kidding
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I can hear my old shovel out in the garage laughing it's mechanical *** of at the ninnies in this thread afraid to use the gearbox.
Sweet Jesus how the f**k do you clowns think we rode and stopped these things long before Harley finally figured out a working disc brake for them.
Sweet Jesus how the f**k do you clowns think we rode and stopped these things long before Harley finally figured out a working disc brake for them.
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Good Gawd man, read the room. I said that back in post #26.
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Hell yeah!!! IF I wanted apes on my batwing, they'd be on there. Aren't apes made to get your hands in the breeze and to air out your arm pits???