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Old Sep 11, 2022 | 01:45 PM
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20820394[/url]]You want the guy to downshift without pulling the clutch in?

The rest is reasonable..
I doubt that is what he meant but to an inexperienced rider it could have easily been seen that way.
 
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Old Sep 11, 2022 | 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by johndoe297
As long as you are rev-matching as you downshift, you're not going to break anything.
You actually can’t rev match with these transmissions.

Our bikes use a simple dog box transmission. There are no synchronizers, just simple dogs. There’s no active neutral between gears, they spring load from one to the next.

An automotive transmission, with synchronizers and an active neutral between each gear can be rev matched. You put the transmission into neutral, release the clutch, use the throttle to rev up the input shaft until the gear speeds match, and downshift. Or, just let the synchronizers do it, as they’re designed to.
 
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Old Sep 11, 2022 | 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by foxtrapper
You actually can’t rev match with these transmissions.

Our bikes use a simple dog box transmission. There are no synchronizers, just simple dogs. There’s no active neutral between gears, they spring load from one to the next.

An automotive transmission, with synchronizers and an active neutral between each gear can be rev matched. You put the transmission into neutral, release the clutch, use the throttle to rev up the input shaft until the gear speeds match, and downshift. Or, just let the synchronizers do it, as they’re designed to.
One must BLIP, No matter what. This is the rule.
 
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Old Sep 11, 2022 | 03:16 PM
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I can hear my old shovel out in the garage laughing it's mechanical *** of at the ninnies in this thread afraid to use the gearbox.

Sweet Jesus how the f**k do you clowns think we rode and stopped these things long before Harley finally figured out a working disc brake for them.
 
Old Sep 11, 2022 | 03:57 PM
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I always downshift. It’s not a new concept, it’s been done for years, Harley Davidson is not magical regardless of what people think.

It does no harm to the engine, they do that.

Regarding safety it also means you are in the correct gear if you have to bug out when the vehicle behind you is coming on strong. Just like not stopping directly behind a car, one side or the other, always have an escape route.
 
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Old Sep 11, 2022 | 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by TwiZted Biker
Sweet Jesus how the f**k do you clowns think we rode and stopped these things long before Harley finally figured out a working disc brake for them.
Unless there's a youtube video about it, they wouldn't have a clue how we all did things in the ancient times.
 
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Old Sep 11, 2022 | 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by foxtrapper
You actually can’t rev match with these transmissions.

Our bikes use a simple dog box transmission. There are no synchronizers, just simple dogs. There’s no active neutral between gears, they spring load from one to the next.

An automotive transmission, with synchronizers and an active neutral between each gear can be rev matched. You put the transmission into neutral, release the clutch, use the throttle to rev up the input shaft until the gear speeds match, and downshift. Or, just let the synchronizers do it, as they’re designed to.
Then why does every Harley I've ever owned downshift with less shock when I rev match?
 
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Old Sep 11, 2022 | 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by brakeless
Then why does every Harley I've ever owned downshift with less shock when I rev match?
Apparently that's impossible...
 
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Old Sep 11, 2022 | 06:03 PM
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Just don’t downshift in too low of a gear and over rev the motor. And let the clutch out slowly to not bring the motor speed up to quickly.
 
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