Agree completely with your points about music lately. I mostly listen to jazz and metal though. Zakk is the main guy for Black Label Society (my avatar) and has served as Ozzy's guitarist since 1988 (with the exception of a few stints by others). Any Ozzy album since 88 is Zakk. He also was in Pride and Glory, which was a Southern rock band ala Allman Brothers & Skynyrd, as well as a solo career and BLS. Plays guitar, piano, pretty much anything else, and sings. Probably more than you ever wanted to know, but you asked. Boy, how did we get here from loud pipes!!!

 

Did you google that or did you sing the school house rock version?

 

Actually, it IS Insure.

As to loud pipes... it's kind of amusing how there are those that do have loud pipes here on the forum, use them at awkward times (early AM for example), and still think that's "OK". I think that common courtesy for your neighbor would be fairly important. I'm not saying get rid of your loud pipes, just be aware of "if the shoe were on the other foot" as far as throttling up and trying to bust the sound barrier. Now, if you're sitting next to one of those ignorant types that are booming their garbage music in their car, and rattling their license plates off, and you want to over rev to drown out the filth... I have no problem with that. If they complain... just tell them "Sorry, if I wanted to listen to your crap music (of whatever genre), I'd be sitting in your car...".

If you don't want the govt to crack down on this noise issue... use some common sense, common courtesy, and get involved in voting, showing up at debates or town meetings, and make your voice heard there. I can remember when CT was considering a helmet law. Bikers from around the state, (and outside of it even), showed up en masse, and basically closed down the capital with their presence, tying up the roads so bad, that to this day, we still have no helmet law (though we DO have to wear seatbelts when in a cage... go figure). IMO, just kvetching about it in an online forum, isn't the same thing as making your voice heard to those that can do something about it (your representative).

 

[sm=wootwoot.gif]School House Rock's baby!! I'm a child of the 70's man..

I'm just a Bill, yes I'm only a Bill
And I'm sitting here on Capital Hill

 

Here's my opinion on the two statements quoted.

All excessively loud pipe do in the long run is **** people off. Hense the very problem you're really complaining about here. I can tell you that after 24 years in the fire service, as well as 30+ years riding motorcycles, most people riding in their cars with the windows up, the AC and radio on, don't hear your loud pipes until you've already past them. I've sat in my own car and watched a straight piped Harley coming toward me and didn't hear a thing from his modified exhaust until he was right in front of me (and I was listening for them)and I promise you, that's too late for the kind of protection you "think" you're getting from your loud pipes. I've driven fire trucks under emergency situations and even with all the lights on and all noise making equipment on the truck running full blast (and all that stuff is pointed forward, not backwards like your exhaust is), they still don't hear us coming as often as not. You're deluding yourself if you thing those loud pipes are making any difference at all in getting the attention of the brain dead cage drivers sitting at that intersection in front of you.

How loud is too loud? If you ride by my house and your exhaust rattles my windows, THAT'S TOO LOUD! If you're riding beside my me in traffic and I'm feeling physical painin my earsfrom your straight pipes, THAT'S TOO LOUD! If you can't warm up your motorcycle in the morningin front of the motelyou just spent the night in without waking half the people in the place that are unfortunate enough to be in the rooms on the side of the building you're parked next too, THAT'S TOO LOUD! I have personally experienced the three examples given above. I could go on but I think everyone gets the point.

Now, having said the above, let me make this clarification. As I said, I've been riding for 30+ years and while I've never owned a Harley, I do appreciate how they sound and for the most part, don't even mind the really loud ones. Not everyone feels that way and that's why motorcylists in general are having to deal with these issues now. I don't like it any more than you do but I do understand where the opposition is coming from. Our "right" to make noise is not unlimited. Our "right" to do anything wewant inthis life without regard to how it effect othersis not unlimited. Sooner or later, we're going to be hit with limits to our so called rights and from the sound of it (no pun intended), the "loud pipes saves lives" group may be about to meet theirs!

Good luck & Ride Safe,
Steve R.

 

lets see. they want our guns, they want more tax money, they are going to silence our rides. hell maybe these p****** will want to sew our mouths shut next.

yea, yea loud pipes can be very offensive. so can your fowl mouthed litlle kid with his or her damn pants hangin down around their knees