Cracked touch screen
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From: Pennsylvania
What is fraud is the $2700 for the headhunt that cost HD $300 max. The guy has a brand new bike that is less than a year old and HD is 100% screwing him over. Just like the "new" water cooled M8's. It's a seal pressurized system that you cannot service without a special tool from HD. They put it on the CVO's and now it will be on the regular bikes. So if you loose pressure in the system you have to get the bike back to HD where they will charge you $150 an hour labor just to pressurize the system again.
You have to bleed the system of air if you loose coolant, just like any other wet system but first I have heard that HD has to "pressurize" the system.
Many times hearsay is just BS.
NOTE:
The above information, while credible, is worth what you paid for it and should not be considered gospel.
Do due diligence, research and have a H-D Field Service Manual before working on your bike.
You will probably have many opinions and suggestions presented; make sure you research the person providing the helpful information as there are some who provide good information and some who speak out of other orifices with gibberish. You will figure out this quickly.
Last edited by CoolBreeze3646; Jan 24, 2024 at 06:18 AM.
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From: Snow Hill, NC
What is fraud is the $2700 for the headhunt that cost HD $300 max. The guy has a brand new bike that is less than a year old and HD is 100% screwing him over. Just like the "new" water cooled M8's. It's a seal pressurized system that you cannot service without a special tool from HD. They put it on the CVO's and now it will be on the regular bikes. So if you loose pressure in the system you have to get the bike back to HD where they will charge you $150 an hour labor just to pressurize the system again.
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Joined: Feb 2016
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From: NC
You are free to voice your opinion....
You claim: "But at the end of the day HD knows they can warranty it. They just choice not to in the hopes the customer that dropped $30,000 on a motorcycle will drop another $2000 on a new head unit."
Maybe that is in fact true..... OR.... maybe the people at the MoCo involved with this decision really believe the damage was caused by blunt trauma and the OP is one of those people who feels the MoCo should just pay anyways...
Doesn't really matter as we will never know for certain.....
My opinion is that whatever the case, criminal behavior is never a proper response.
The only reason I responded to your comments is because all too often I see comments on the internet that tend to suggest illegal and inappropriate behavior is excusable, as a response to some suspected slight... Those comments most often go unchallenged. That gives them an appearance of overall acceptance ....
I respond, because I truely believe that illegal behavior is not a proper option. I choose to offer an opposing opinion when I see comments like you made, so some who may be swayed by words on the internet, know their are other people who don't agree...
My response was to disagree with what you said. I do not have any issue with you, nor do I mean my opposing opinion as an attack on you personally..
I've said my piece, others who disagree are free to offer their opinions...
Peace out.....
You claim: "But at the end of the day HD knows they can warranty it. They just choice not to in the hopes the customer that dropped $30,000 on a motorcycle will drop another $2000 on a new head unit."
Maybe that is in fact true..... OR.... maybe the people at the MoCo involved with this decision really believe the damage was caused by blunt trauma and the OP is one of those people who feels the MoCo should just pay anyways...
Doesn't really matter as we will never know for certain.....
My opinion is that whatever the case, criminal behavior is never a proper response.
The only reason I responded to your comments is because all too often I see comments on the internet that tend to suggest illegal and inappropriate behavior is excusable, as a response to some suspected slight... Those comments most often go unchallenged. That gives them an appearance of overall acceptance ....
I respond, because I truely believe that illegal behavior is not a proper option. I choose to offer an opposing opinion when I see comments like you made, so some who may be swayed by words on the internet, know their are other people who don't agree...
My response was to disagree with what you said. I do not have any issue with you, nor do I mean my opposing opinion as an attack on you personally..
I've said my piece, others who disagree are free to offer their opinions...
Peace out.....
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From: B.C.
What is fraud is the $2700 for the headhunt that cost HD $300 max. The guy has a brand new bike that is less than a year old and HD is 100% screwing him over. Just like the "new" water cooled M8's. It's a seal pressurized system that you cannot service without a special tool from HD. They put it on the CVO's and now it will be on the regular bikes. So if you loose pressure in the system you have to get the bike back to HD where they will charge you $150 an hour labor just to pressurize the system again.
“Fraud” is any activity that relies on deception in order to achieve a gain. Fraud becomes a crime when it is a “knowing misrepresentation of the truth or concealment of a material fact to induce another to act to his or her detriment” (Black’s Law Dictionary). In other words, if you lie in order to deprive a person or organization of their money or property, you’re committing fraud.
I copied this definition from a fraud website.
https://www.acfe.com/fraud-resources...-what-is-fraud
It has Nothing to do with the cooling system either.
Let’s agree that no one should commit fraud and it is certainly not recommended on this forum.
Last edited by Highway Handler; Jan 24, 2024 at 07:43 AM.
What is fraud is the $2700 for the headhunt that cost HD $300 max. The guy has a brand new bike that is less than a year old and HD is 100% screwing him over. Just like the "new" water cooled M8's. It's a seal pressurized system that you cannot service without a special tool from HD. They put it on the CVO's and now it will be on the regular bikes. So if you loose pressure in the system you have to get the bike back to HD where they will charge you $150 an hour labor just to pressurize the system again.
You're spouting off numbers like you're in the know. HD doesn't make the head unit, so they aren't making much profit on them. They aren't a big selling item after the purchase of a bike.
The water cooled heads are a low pressure system.
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From: NorCal Rocklin
I have talked to a NASA optics engineer who reached out to me. He has shown the two cracks from temperature man blunt force trauma they are very different. There is no impact point on the defective glass. Nothing is 100 % perfect. This just had a defect and spider cracked. A warrantable defect
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From: NH
What is fraud is the $2700 for the headhunt that cost HD $300 max. The guy has a brand new bike that is less than a year old and HD is 100% screwing him over. Just like the "new" water cooled M8's. It's a seal pressurized system that you cannot service without a special tool from HD. They put it on the CVO's and now it will be on the regular bikes. So if you loose pressure in the system you have to get the bike back to HD where they will charge you $150 an hour labor just to pressurize the system again.
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