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Old Jan 12, 2008 | 03:04 AM
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Unrelated to Touring or Motorcycles, but you guys have shared so much knowledge with me on motorcycles, I figured I'd return the love with a bit of "street knowledge" so to speak. And by "street knowledge" I mean standing in the street by the side of a police car while two copsgave mea field sobriety test.
Aboutan hour ago, I was heading home with my wife from a good friend's house (ironically my friend is a LEO). We had just pulled onto the freeway and had gone about 2 miles at the (dead nuts-on) speed limit of 65 mph. In fact, I had the cruise control set just so I wouldn't get snagged by photo radar or an overzealous rookie.
Acar closed in rapidly behind us, indeed a police car, who proceeded to turn on his lights and pull me over. And now, the lesson begins:
1.) When you get out of your car (the nice and warm car that is heated to about 80 degrees), 44 degrees is very cold when you're wearing a short sleeved Tee-shirt. Do yourself a favor and grab a coat if you have one - I did not. This temperature on bare skin causes the body to begin shaking about mid-way through the "follow the tip of my pen with your eyes and don't move your head" routine. My dear friends, I tell you this,resist the temptation to shiver as it will provide a "false positive" that you're whacked out on illicit substances, when in actuality you're only cold.
2.) Don't be thrown off when the cop says "I'm going to do this again and, this time, don't move your head." I tell you this: As sure I am that I love America, I am absolutely, positively, unequivocally certain that I did not move my head while my eyes followed the tip of his pen and he was saying this just to rattle my cage. Shocking I know. I can honestly say that I did not feel the DPS officer administeringthe test had my best interests in mind!
3.) When you see twoofficers get out of the Policecruiser and one looks young, while the other one looks older, (and the young one is doing the field sobriety test) you can be darn sure that this is a "training opportunity" for the rookie cop to see what stone he might turn overamidst him passing judgment on how much your head did, or did not move while your eyes were following the pen. Again, let me re-iterate that he was not looking out for my best interests here...
My infraction (according to him) was that I had "broken thestripe" on the lane I was traveling in. My car is 8 feet wide. The lane I was driving in was about 14 feet wide. 14 - 8 = 6. 6/2 = 3. Yes indeed, at 65 mph, I may have drifted1-2 feet while rounding a turn(I'm kind of an apex guy).
For the record, I had EXACTLY 1 glass of wine (a Pinot) over the 5 hour period of time we were visiting with our friends. I am 6'4 and 250 pounds. I was about as drunk as I might be after taking communion on Sunday morning.
Oh well, all in good fun, right.
Perhaps the most important lesson I learned was that 12:56 a.m. on a Saturday morning is a target-rich environment for our friends in law-enforcement. Maybe we should do our visiting with friends a bit earlier in the evening, and not be on the road within minutes of bars closing. While I'd like to say that I don't hold any grudges against the DPS officer, I do think he was a bit "quick to judgement" on the stop. I mean, follow me for another mile and you'll see that I apex all of my turns...
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Old Jan 12, 2008 | 06:56 AM
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So the tip was...visit your friends early and wear a coat when you are getting out to do your field sobriety test?[sm=confused06.gif]
 
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Old Jan 12, 2008 | 07:08 AM
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I may be a bit jaded, but I think the tip was that too many officers, overstuffed on do-nuts, fail to go after the REAL criminals, and continue to harass honest citizens just because it's easier. Aint that the way YOU read that?

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Old Jan 12, 2008 | 07:17 AM
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I may be a bit jaded, but I think the tip was that too many officers, overstuffed on do-nuts, fail to go after the REAL criminals, and continue to harass honest citizens just because it's easier. Aint that the way YOU read that?

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Nope, at that time of night a car drifting out of theri lane just might be a drunk driver. They don't know who's driving that car when they pull it over. Nothing wrong with cops doing their job. If they sit in their patrol car and say "well the car did drift but he looks to be an okay guy" and let them go, it just might be a drunk that kills someone. I've been pulled over many a time late at night and each time I know why they're actually doing it and I'm totally fine with it.
 
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Old Jan 12, 2008 | 07:21 AM
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Right on Sleepman...and for the record, drunk drivers are REAL criminals...contrary to how the justice system views them.
 
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Old Jan 12, 2008 | 07:30 AM
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Maybe it would be a little more "sporting" of the police to wait until a driver was obviously drunk before stopping them. Better yet, they could just wait until the someone else is killed and then determine whether the driver was intoxicated. Then you could fuss about the police not doing anything to prevent the traffic fatalities.

What do you want the police to do...be proactive and stop the drinking driver before the crash occurs or wait until they are positive the driver is drunk?

Research indicates that minor traffic clues are the easiest way to detect drivers who have been drinking. Those clues include failing to dim headlights, wide turns, weaving within the lane, etc.

Sounds to me like your stop happened exactly as it should have. The facts you stated are that you had consumed alcohol and you were driving during a time period when DUI's are common. You were stopped and checked on the basis of a clue. The horizontal gaze nystagmus test is very accurate, when properly performed, and does require the physical cooperation of the person tested. You were shivering due to the cold and that probably did interfere with the test. The officer determined that your shivering interefered with the test and asked you to perform it again. Would you have been happier if he had arrested you based on the first result that he didn't trust? If I saw you get out in the cold without a coat, I would also wonder whether you had been drinking.

You didn't state that you were arrested, so it sounds to me like the ending was perfect. Asking the police to follow you further only increases the odds of a truly drunken driver being involved in a crash. If the police are following a suspected DUI, would you want them to follow that driver an extra mile if a member of your family was out on the highway at that time? I doubt it!

Sounds like you had an encounter with some officers that were doing their job properly. In return, you are criticizing them for doing that job well.

Be careful what you ask for....you could live in a place where the police do nothing to prevent traffic crashes.

Andy

 
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Old Jan 12, 2008 | 07:39 AM
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Dam, I guess I better stop weaving in the lane with the bike....I might get pulled over for DUI....lol. I weave in the lane all the time when traffic is busy. It wakes the cagers up and keeps them off my butt. At least in San Antonio it works about 95% of the time.
 
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Old Jan 12, 2008 | 07:47 AM
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Bottom line is cops are looking for drunk drivers more, these days. Right wrong or whatever, they're gona stop ya if you do anything slightly wrong and evenings might be worse. ****, I got stopped for going right of center in the middle of the day, sober and driving a co. vehicle. He didn't think I needed a sobrietytest, I guess,but he did give me a ticket for it!
 
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Old Jan 12, 2008 | 07:51 AM
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Dam, I guess I better stop weaving in the lane with the bike....I might get pulled over for DUI....lol. I weave in the lane all the time when traffic is busy. It wakes the cagers up and keeps them off my butt. At least in San Antonio it works about 95% of the time.
Funny that you mention that... I was pulled over for weaving in my own lane in traffic. Cager on cell phone crosses line into my lane, I weave to avoid being crushed, cop stops me for "erratic driving" WTF? Long story short, I was sent on my way after LEO had me dance on the side of the road like a circus performer for twenty minutes. It was 4:45pm and I was on my way home from work. Hadn't even had a chance to get a beer at home and relax yet.
 
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Old Jan 12, 2008 | 08:03 AM
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Of the many times I've been pulled over only once haveI been guilty and let go and twice I was guilty and admitted it up front. The others were pure harassment in my car. Was issued citations for every one and finally got tired of it so I went to court which required me to take 2 days off from work asI travel throughout the US. Drive 3 hours one way only to be mocked in the courtroom by the female officer and female judge in attendance. Total cost was around $1165.00 for lost wages and expenses including the fine for speeding. I started video taping patrol cars on the freeway before I went to court flying past me at high rates of speed, some up to 15 over the speed limit and still pulling away from me. I also offered this after the verdict and the judge stated that she could care less what the officers were doing on the road. I then asked what the rules were on patrol cars without emergency and without lights flying down the freeway and she told me ifI wanted to know the library upstairs was full of law books and I was more than welcome to go start reading. She then ordered me to not say another word and leave her courtroom and pay on the way out. Now lets recap......been broken into 6 times only to wait 6 hours for a patrol car and then no evidence was ever taken. Stolen items never recovered from home or cabin or an update or report. Letters in the mail stating I need to take drivers training classes( I drive 50Ka year plus work at least a 40 week) Never been in an accident that was caused by me. To protect and to serve indeed.............

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