Bumping up to 103"
Tourer
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From: Minneapolis, MN
RE: Bumping up to 103"
I just had this discussion with my service manager today.
130 stage II, $2800 out the door (at time of delivery with 20% off and winter labor/dyno rates) and full 2 year warranty.
He just did one on a 08 fatboy an got 97.8 HP and 117 TQ with a Rinehart 2 into 1 pipe.
130 stage II, $2800 out the door (at time of delivery with 20% off and winter labor/dyno rates) and full 2 year warranty.
He just did one on a 08 fatboy an got 97.8 HP and 117 TQ with a Rinehart 2 into 1 pipe.
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From: Roswell, GA
RE: Bumping up to 103"
From HD's website regarding the Stage II BB 103 kit mentioned above:
NOTE: Recalibration is required for proper installation, and will allow engine to rev to 6200 RPM. See dealer for details. Labor cost not included. When installed by an authorized Harley-Davidson® Dealer, these kits do not impact the vehicle's limited warranty.
NOTE: Recalibration is required for proper installation, and will allow engine to rev to 6200 RPM. See dealer for details. Labor cost not included. When installed by an authorized Harley-Davidson® Dealer, these kits do not impact the vehicle's limited warranty.
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From: DFW
RE: Bumping up to 103"
ORIGINAL: Harleypingman
From HD's website regarding the Stage II BB 103 kit mentioned above:
NOTE: Recalibration is required for proper installation, and will allow engine to rev to 6200 RPM. See dealer for details. Labor cost not included. When installed by an authorized Harley-Davidson® Dealer, these kits do not impact the vehicle's limited warranty.
From HD's website regarding the Stage II BB 103 kit mentioned above:
NOTE: Recalibration is required for proper installation, and will allow engine to rev to 6200 RPM. See dealer for details. Labor cost not included. When installed by an authorized Harley-Davidson® Dealer, these kits do not impact the vehicle's limited warranty.
That clown doesn't have a clue what the F he's talking about. Most of us who've bought a few HD's aren't completely stupid. I hesitate to say it, because I like a lot of the guys at several of the HD dealerships that I know, but it isn't uncommon at all to get the "dog's watchin TV look" when you start to talk to them about something other than what their manual says. Rarely will you find an enthusiast that actually seems to care or understand half of what you're discussing unless it's something they've heard...and they repeat it. I know for example, that a Stage II Harley build is no monster, it won't pull the front end up off the ground, and it ain't no dyno queen. I also know that stock96" motors are making high 80's into 90's in torque with stock cams. The Stage II 103"is a smooth, easy starting, very quick mild build with stock heads. They make 85-90 HP and 100ft/lb (often better),all day. They are the best "Stage II's" with the mid lift 255 camsand stock heads HD has offered. Way better than the old Stage II88" to 95" with SE 203's, but even those were nice improvements to a stock Harley. For a guywho's mantra is "I work in aHarley shop" maintain suchnonsense is almost laughable. As I said, I didn't really think $2600 labor and parts was that great of a deal forthe Stage II 103", but worth it to me to have it done before I took delivery so I could ride. I've been extremely pleased with the whole setup since.
Tourer
Joined: Jan 2008
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From: Minneapolis, MN
RE: Bumping up to 103"
Hey Glider
What pipes did you end up going with and do you have any dyno numbers? Just curious as I am contemplating the 103 stage II at delivery option and do not want to run the SE pipes.
Thanks
What pipes did you end up going with and do you have any dyno numbers? Just curious as I am contemplating the 103 stage II at delivery option and do not want to run the SE pipes.
Thanks
Road Master
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RE: Bumping up to 103"
GliderXXX I Concur with your assessment of the so called Harley Worker, there is plenty of People working at my local Shop including Bike Washers and bathroom cleaners but that doesn't mean they know anything about the Bikes that come thru there
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From: Roswell, GA
RE: Bumping up to 103"
gliderXXX: I didn't have a problem with anything you said--just providing some reliably sourced, easily verified,information on whether the kit in question was warrantied or not--clearly it is.
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From: DFW
RE: Bumping up to 103"
ORIGINAL: Harleypingman
gliderXXX: I didn't have a problem with anything you said--just providing some reliably sourced, easily verified,information on whether the kit in question was warrantied or not--clearly it is.
gliderXXX: I didn't have a problem with anything you said--just providing some reliably sourced, easily verified,information on whether the kit in question was warrantied or not--clearly it is.
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Road Captain
Joined: Nov 2007
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From: Just west of Tahoe
RE: Bumping up to 103"
Cant you just pull the jugs, bore em and install larger pistons? Do a little head work, maybe add some medium duration cams (37H's or comparible) and be on your way?
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RE: Bumping up to 103"
ORIGINAL: GliderXXX
*Just reread this Harleypingman and just to be sure...my comments belowaren't in reference to you of course
That clown doesn't have a clue what the F he's talking about. Most of us who've bought a few HD's aren't completely stupid. I hesitate to say it, because I like a lot of the guys at several of the HD dealerships that I know, but it isn't uncommon at all to get the "dog's watchin TV look" when you start to talk to them about something other than what their manual says. Rarely will you find an enthusiast that actually seems to care or understand half of what you're discussing unless it's something they've heard...and they repeat it. I know for example, that a Stage II Harley build is no monster, it won't pull the front end up off the ground, and it ain't no dyno queen. I also know that stock96" motors are making high 80's into 90's in torque with stock cams. The Stage II 103"is a smooth, easy starting, very quick mild build with stock heads. They make 85-90 HP and 100ft/lb (often better),all day. They are the best "Stage II's" with the mid lift 255 camsand stock heads HD has offered. Way better than the old Stage II88" to 95" with SE 203's, but even those were nice improvements to a stock Harley. For a guywho's mantra is "I work in aHarley shop" maintain suchnonsense is almost laughable. As I said, I didn't really think $2600 labor and parts was that great of a deal forthe Stage II 103", but worth it to me to have it done before I took delivery so I could ride. I've been extremely pleased with the whole setup since.
ORIGINAL: Harleypingman
From HD's website regarding the Stage II BB 103 kit mentioned above:
NOTE: Recalibration is required for proper installation, and will allow engine to rev to 6200 RPM. See dealer for details. Labor cost not included. When installed by an authorized Harley-Davidson® Dealer, these kits do not impact the vehicle's limited warranty.
From HD's website regarding the Stage II BB 103 kit mentioned above:
NOTE: Recalibration is required for proper installation, and will allow engine to rev to 6200 RPM. See dealer for details. Labor cost not included. When installed by an authorized Harley-Davidson® Dealer, these kits do not impact the vehicle's limited warranty.
That clown doesn't have a clue what the F he's talking about. Most of us who've bought a few HD's aren't completely stupid. I hesitate to say it, because I like a lot of the guys at several of the HD dealerships that I know, but it isn't uncommon at all to get the "dog's watchin TV look" when you start to talk to them about something other than what their manual says. Rarely will you find an enthusiast that actually seems to care or understand half of what you're discussing unless it's something they've heard...and they repeat it. I know for example, that a Stage II Harley build is no monster, it won't pull the front end up off the ground, and it ain't no dyno queen. I also know that stock96" motors are making high 80's into 90's in torque with stock cams. The Stage II 103"is a smooth, easy starting, very quick mild build with stock heads. They make 85-90 HP and 100ft/lb (often better),all day. They are the best "Stage II's" with the mid lift 255 camsand stock heads HD has offered. Way better than the old Stage II88" to 95" with SE 203's, but even those were nice improvements to a stock Harley. For a guywho's mantra is "I work in aHarley shop" maintain suchnonsense is almost laughable. As I said, I didn't really think $2600 labor and parts was that great of a deal forthe Stage II 103", but worth it to me to have it done before I took delivery so I could ride. I've been extremely pleased with the whole setup since.
Hold up a second. My dealer sold me a 103 build. Said I needed 103 jugs, 37G cams . Pro performer heads. Dome top pistons 10:5.1 . the complete package cost me $4500. My dyno read out was 100 TQ and 87 HP . I have reinharts. So why is it you got a build for $2600 and it cost me $4500 and you got more everything ???????