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Old Jul 21, 2008 | 02:28 PM
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What are the most common cause for pinging and how to stop them?
 
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Old Jul 21, 2008 | 02:31 PM
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Better GAS
 
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Old Jul 21, 2008 | 02:32 PM
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Engine running way too lean. Have you done anything like changing exhaust or air cleaner? Best thing you can do is add a fuel management system to be able to adjust your fuel mixture from the factory 14.7 to around 13.6. Hope this helps.
 
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Old Jul 21, 2008 | 02:35 PM
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+1, should run 91 or better.&nbsp\\; Some run 89 and get away with it.
 
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Old Jul 21, 2008 | 02:38 PM
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Increased outside temp &amp\\; humid counditions will also make the Putt run hotter and that can also case a ping.
 
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Old Jul 21, 2008 | 02:38 PM
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commom causes are too much timing or high compression.
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Remedies include retarded timing or reduce compression.
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Old Jul 21, 2008 | 02:52 PM
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I have some pinging, but only&nbsp\\;when bike hot, wide open throttle above 3,000. Running PCIII and 92 octane.
 
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Old Jul 21, 2008 | 03:46 PM
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+1 better gas 93 oc if you can get it.
 
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Old Jul 21, 2008 | 03:50 PM
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Default RE: How to stop pinging

Here are some personal observations.
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my bike knocks and pings under load - it is a 99 TC88 with 67,000 miles on it.&nbsp\\; the knocking and pinging started around 45,000 miles ( I moved to New England around that time).
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I once posted a question here about it and was told my Mikuni 42mm carb was jetted wrong - I find that hard to believe that it would take that many miles for an improperly jetted carb to reveal itself.&nbsp\\; (carb installed at 20,000 miles).&nbsp\\; I'm not disputing the running lean might be the problem, but it was fine for 20,000+ miles with the Mikuni Carb before the pinging started.&nbsp\\; There could be gunk in the jets I suppose....
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Another suggestion was carbon buildup&nbsp\\;- more believable given the mileage.&nbsp\\; When I hit 100,000 miles, I will 95" it and maybe the pinging will go away. LOL
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Real Life Experience - On June 28, I left Maine for a 5,000 mile trip south.&nbsp\\; By day 3, in Virginia, the pinging had stopped.&nbsp\\; No Pinging until July 9 upon return to the northeast - the first Tank of gas purchased in New York (93 octane) and the pinging started.&nbsp\\; So, no pinging with gas bought in Virginia, NC, Tennessee, SC, GA, FL, AL, Miss, KY, WV.&nbsp\\; Pinging when I buy gas in NY, VT, NH and ME.
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Guess I need to move.
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Service Manager at local HD dealer is recommending to customers to run 87 Octane with booster.&nbsp\\; with the high gas prices, premium gas is not being purchased as much&nbsp\\;and is going stale in the underground tanks.&nbsp\\; take that for whatever it is worth.
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Old Jul 21, 2008 | 04:09 PM
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Default RE: How to stop pinging

You don't say what bike/mods, when it is pinging, etc.
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Causes in no particular order:&nbsp\\;
Low octane (cheap is a relative word today) gas
Carbon build up in combustion chamber
Hot spot in the combustion chamber
Lean carb/injector system
Timing too far advanced for load conditions
Motor too hot for other conditions/settings.
 
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