Originally Posted by UltraKla$$ic

Good feedback Tim, hogdvr, and others. Much appreciated and valid replies.

I too believe every FLH has a bit of wobble under the right conditions, but I'm really not here to debate whether one has it or not. As for the motorcops? I doubt most spend as much time blazing thru long sweepers loaded down and if they do, I doubt they convey there concern on an internet forum, so this too I'm not concerned with. Although, you never know who is lurking and unfortunately not responding to this thread.

What I AM concerned with is those of us that share an interest to figure out the cause, effect, and potential solution for correction. Bringing the "why don't this sect of motorcyclist complain about the wobble" into this conversation is a mute point as far as I'm concerned because as I expressed...........given the right conditions ALL FLH's will wag. Is it life threatening? Only if the frame grenades, in which I have never heard of this happening, HOWEVER, what we don't know or have evidence of is how many accidents have happened because of loss of control related to the issue of wag brought before us in this thread...........hmmmm........

Having said that, I also believe that no one product is "better" than the other, HOWEVER, I've refocused my attention on which one will correct the wag with the least amount of stress transmitted to the frame and rider....ie more vibration.

After giving this some thought, and since I do not have any feedback from a professional that can provide scientific feedback I'm going to choose the device that attaches to a LARGE surface area on my bike with minimal interference........that being but not limited to add-ons and curb height where bike to ground clearance is not an issue.

Unless someone can provide info on how much stress the cleve block area of the bike can endure, and not a simple "we've been doing it for years this way with no ill effects" cause I don't operate like this, I'm going with a cross member mounted device. I presented this thread in search of some cold hard scientific data in an attempt to get some of these "developers of these products" to chime in but to no avail.

To each his own, but I feel I'm armed with enough info and have made the decision to go with the Bagger Brace.

I'm not pimping jack ****, have no dog in this hunt, and certainly don't care what others buy, sell, or trade, but I will give this 100% money back guaranteed with free shipping offering a try and will report my findings as I wait patiently for either a manufacturer of these devices or an Engineer to come in here and disuade me from my decision.

I'll be over there----------------------------> waiting with baited breath.

EDIT: I'm not bashing, speaking ill, or conveying a negative message towards ANYONE or ANY PRODUCT but instead merely speaking out loud amongst friends and patrons that share a common interest of motorcycling. Nothing more, nothing less. I've eaten crow more than one time in my life and for the sake of learning, could eat some more.

Originally Posted by txcomp

I too wondered why the motorcops don’t experience the wobble and I’m not sure that they don’t. The guys I know and ride with around here use Road Kings at work so less weight on the bars may also make a difference. However, I have looked the police bikes over pretty closely and they seem to have as much or more weight on them as a “normal” Ultra, but, a lot of it is carried lower in the side bags and also closer to the fender (lower) than in a tour pack and back of the engine/trans/swingarm junction. I played around with the theory of emulating a police bike as best I could by moving weight right off of the top of that joint and could also minimize the wobble to a degree by intentionally loading behind the joint but I could never eliminate it.

I’ve got a friend that is a police motorcycle instructor and also a Rider’s Edge instructor. He has a 08 Ultra as do I but rides a 07 Road King Police at work. I’ve asked him about the wobble and he swears neither of his bike wobble and but mine gyrates like crazy through the sweepers, especially if there are bumps. No clue if he experiences it on his police motor but I have 3 theories on why he doesn’t feel it on his personal bike:

1: He does in fact experience the wobble but he is “used” to it and considers it normal. To my knowledge, he has ridden touring class H/D’s for the past 15 or 20 years so he may think it is normal.

2: He knows how to correctly corner and does it most every time. I noticed when I was EXTREMELY particular about my path of travel and paid very close attention rolling the throttle on at the apex of the corner, I could minimize the wobble but not completely eliminate it.

3: He is BS’ing me and doesn’t want to admit his wobbles also.

I spoke at length to the service manager at the dealership I teach at before I bought the TWR. He showed me on a bike that was torn down in the shop how everything is put together and essentially everything is riding on rubber in the back of the engine/trans/swingarm junction. After looking at the different offerings very closely, the TWR most closely matched the front motor mount set up of the bike and since Tracy is also big contributor to this forum, I chose his product. Is it the best?? I dunno, Does it work?? From my limited experience on the bike (1 ride to the shop for a checkup before the 105th) it feels MUCH more solid. I have a 60+ mph sweeper with a bump in the apex right near my house that I used to be able to hit and get the wobble at will and when I went over it the other day, there was no wobble that I detected.

I personally don’t think any of the braces need to support a whole lot of stress because the design of the frame will only allow the swingarm to move so far. I look at the brace as a way to eliminate the smaller movements which set up the oscillations. FWIW, the TWR brace has quite a bit of surface area where it contacts the frame so if should spread the load fairly evenly by design. Also, if you look at the front motor mount (which is what the TWR essentially is in the rear), there isn’t a whole lot supporting it either.

Anyway, that’s my .02 from my experience…..

Originally Posted by EvEr34

Here's a new one.....new to me anyways.


http://www.glide-pro.com/?gclid=CNyA...FR-mQQodw3fukQ


Any reviews?