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Bought it, installed it, rode it, extremely satisfied with the quality and performance. Took 25 minutes to install in 3 easy steps...instructions included. Bagger-Brace click here
1. Engine brace bolts to the 3 rear bolts on each side of the oil pan, (new bolts supplied).
2. Frame stays/cross plate ~ bolt to frame cross brace.
This is something I really want to hear about from your road racing friend. It seems the explanation for the wobble, rear end drift, (call it what you want) is a simple one. It would be really interesting to see how the MOCO has fixed the problem and compare it to all the different stabilizers being sold around here. Maybe there's a better mouse trap still to be had and Tracy or someone else may have to modify their own approach and design. All products go through original and improved models as develop and are tested in the field. Why not stabilizers. Falling prices are already reflecting the competition in this market. So why not improvements as well. Capitalism at work. Isn't America truly beautiful! Ya gotta love it.
Apparently capitalism is alive and well. He told me it is like a different bike compared to his '07 RK, much more integrated feel with no more disjointed feel in corners. He said the old bike without stabilizers felt like it flexed in the center of the bike in corners, but the '09 is rock solid. He's very impressed.
I haven't seen any write-ups on the new frame and mounting setup, so I can't speculate on what was done. Looking at the rear mount system on an '09 bike doesn't really help, although it is evident that it is quite different.
I bought the True-Track while at Sturgis this month. It truly helped the stability of the bike. While they were installing it I noticed a pile of parts on the floor and asked what it was. They said it was a couple other brands they had removed from bikes to install theirs. One was an Aloy Art but I can't remember the other brand. The complaint about the Aloy Art was increased vibration and the complaint about the other was quality of components (rusting parts in a very short time).
If I were to do it over I'd consider another brand because my next stop in the vendor area was the EZup center stand where I found out that it was incompatible with the True Track (or any stabilizers that install in the cross member). Both EZup and True Track say they are working on a solution.
As far as True Track's claim that it helps cool the transmission, I see no reason to doubt that claim as it is a pretty good hunk of aluminum and would certainly act as a large heat sink. I don't know that the transmission need cooling, but it certainly wouldn't increase it's temperature.
FWIW, the wobble is real, and installing the Ride Str8 made a huge difference. I'll regurgitate what I've said many times before in other posts:
I think most folks don't think they have the wobble because they don't know how to induce it, or what it feels like when it happens. I didn't know about it until I got on this forum and read about it. I thought it was the normal noises. There have been times I thought I had a flat rear tire on riding previous Ultras ('05, 06, '07).
Let me know if you do or don't feel this after taking the wobble test:
ˇ Go down the road, straight, about 50 to 60 mph, both "hands on the wheel".
ˇ Take your **** and shift it hard to one side. Left or right doesn't matter. Your just trying to make a sudden c.g. shift.
ˇ See if the bike doesn't oscillate back and forth about 3 times.
ˇ If so, you've got the wobble.
My '08 did this from brand new. After installing the Ride Sr8t the bike is solid. Does not oscillate. I can shift my weight hard and the bike feels like it's bolted to the road. Huge difference in the sweepers, and more importantly heavy cross winds. We rode this weekend (2 up) in some hellacious winds, 40 mph gust type, bike was stable and steady. Yeah, we got tossed around but never did I feel wobbly or outta control.
Some folks ask if they really need a stabilizer. Need? No. Should you have it for added safety and control? Absolutely. Why doesn't HD address it? 'Cause it costs money. They don't put the $20.00 fork baffles on anymore, why would they design and add the stabilizer.
That's my $1.98 worth.
Folks have replied "maybe it's your tires, shocks, etc". Like I said, brand new Ultra. Meaning I got it with 1 mile on it. Tough to beat that. Proper tire pressures, and shock preload. If folks want to get into more detail, PM me and I'll be happy to chat about it.
I agree with iclick's first post about fit and function as well.
I bought the True-Track while at Sturgis this month. It truly helped the stability of the bike. While they were installing it I noticed a pile of parts on the floor and asked what it was. They said it was a couple other brands they had removed from bikes to install theirs. One was an Aloy Art but I can't remember the other brand. The complaint about the Aloy Art was increased vibration and the complaint about the other was quality of components (rusting parts in a very short time).
If I were to do it over I'd consider another brand because my next stop in the vendor area was the EZup center stand where I found out that it was incompatible with the True Track (or any stabilizers that install in the cross member). Both EZup and True Track say they are working on a solution.
As far as True Track's claim that it helps cool the transmission, I see no reason to doubt that claim as it is a pretty good hunk of aluminum and would certainly act as a large heat sink. I don't know that the transmission need cooling, but it certainly wouldn't increase it's temperature.
If you notice in an earlier post that I submitted the Alloy Art has only two screws directly where the center stand mounts and as for clearance as stated before the mount only adds 1/2 inch to the cross member so if you install the center stand for a lowered bike it will fit fine and work fine due to the line up of the holes just need longer screws. HMMMMM also as for Vibration if you have it adjusted all the way down you do get Vibration but it has bushings in the fittings and if you give it even the slightest slack it doesn't Vibrate.
Last edited by Emporers New Clothes; Aug 22, 2008 at 03:06 AM.
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I have a question that I haven't seen asked before. We have several MOTORMEN past and present on the forum. These guys ride for a living in all kinds of conditions day in and day out.
Why don't your bikes get fitted with stabilizers from your departments? Or do they? Any opinions on this subject from these professionals?
Do you know specifically what the MOCO changed on the '09's to alleviate this problem? I understand that it has been fixed with the new chassis. Is this true? If it has been fixed is the fix similar in nature to the stabilizers being sold?
It has NOT been fixed.I recently demoed an '09 Road Glide and the S/E Road Glide in Rapid City during the Sturgis rally.I was most interested to see if the MOCO had addressed the problem with the new frame and motor mount system.I took the S/E out east on the new I-90 pavement which is grooved and has some pretty good curves with bumps in them.The new bikes do feel a little tighter but the tail wagging reared its ugly head in the first corner bump at 70 mph.For a comparison after the demo ride I took my bike('06 Road Glide with TWR stabilizer) over the same stretch at same speeds.No tail wagging at all.My conclusion,the new frame and mm system did tighten up the ride but did nothing to address the wagging issue.DISCLAIMER: I have no interest in promoting anybodys product. just my opinions based on personal experience.
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