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Old Aug 29, 2008 | 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Leftcoaster
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BTW - ALL synthetics come from dino based oil stock. They simply arrange the molecular structure to their own specs and build the oil from there.
This is not 100% correct. Some oils that call themselves synthetic are made from dino base but certainly not all. Amsoil and some others are made from pure esters (chemical bases) that do not contain the varity of molecule sizes found in dino oil bases. The esters are blended specifically for the desired properties, while with dino oil, the refiner is only able to concentrate more of the desirable molecules into the product but cannot completely eliminate the larger, heavier molecules that are found in the dino base. The uniform molecule size in the true synthetic product is what gives it the superior lubricating properties.
 
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Old Aug 29, 2008 | 12:04 PM
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Just where do you think they get the esters in the first place. I'd like to know and all the research I've found to date supports what I said. If I'm not completely informed please let me know where to find this info.
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Old Aug 29, 2008 | 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by asuperheat
If it goes 2x as long then not so bad for better protection is it?
Are you asking if paying more for a product that provides better protection for your $20k investment is not so bad?

I think you may have answered your own question there...

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Old Aug 29, 2008 | 12:54 PM
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there becomes a point of diminisihing returns. when good enough is good enough and better makes no difference. i'm not going to spend the money when it reaches that point.
 
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Old Aug 29, 2008 | 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by skratch
there becomes a point of diminisihing returns. when good enough is good enough and better makes no difference. i'm not going to spend the money when it reaches that point.
Spoken like a true student of economics...
 
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Old Aug 29, 2008 | 01:05 PM
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Can someone chime in an tell me where I can get some Red Line Heavy Shockproof for the transmission ? We must have a dealer or a link on here !
 
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Old Aug 29, 2008 | 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by asuperheat
The recomended chang is 2x that of dyno oil is it realy that much more? If it goes 2x as long then not so bad for better protection is it?
I heard of syn going 2x longer, but never read it in any service manuals or bulletins. With my professional experience this tells me any mfg'r is going to get out of any claim if there was an issue. Ask me why I know this.

Personally I wouldnt extend my service intervals. Even if the oil didnt breakdown as quick as dino oil, the byproducts created in an internal combustion engine still build up inside and I would rather drain contaminants from my engine.
 
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Old Aug 29, 2008 | 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Sport King
Can someone chime in an tell me where I can get some Red Line Heavy Shockproof for the transmission ? We must have a dealer or a link on here !
Ive seen it at the HD dealer. Im going to try some, maybe that will cool down my primary case.
 
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Originally Posted by Tinman265
As an AMSOIL dealer I can can tell you that the cost of all their products went up as of July 1. This is due to the increased costs of base materials.

The perfered customer (or dealer) cost currently is $8.25 a quart or $94.20 a case.

Delivered to my door is $113.20 a case, including shipping. I put 10% profit for me (yes I have to make something) so that is $10.37 a quart. I took all picing information off an order I created to find out exact amounts.

Filters have gone up even more!

The typical twin cam chrome filter is $15.35 cost /$19.75 retail!!!!!!!

Current retail is $11.05 a quart plus shipping and tax.

It is a shame that shipping has come into play but until recently I could pick up the product and save my customers thew shipping.

Now with fuel costs I just have it shipped and pass the cost on. If you order online you will still pay the shipping.

Overall I have noticed the costs have gone up dramaticly, almost to the point of switching myself but in the long run I have seen how great of a product is and will contine to use it.

If you can get this GOLD any cheaper than I can sell it for here then snap it up quick! Prices are going to go up..........They just have not caught up yet.

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You got me scared! Picked up six quarts of Amsol 20W50 SYN for MC at local NAPA shop for $8.50/qt. Maybe I should go back and clean 'em out!
 
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Old Aug 29, 2008 | 08:21 PM
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Saw Mobile 1 gold cap at Target for 6.00 a Qt. No energy conservation on back either. 15W50...also had red cap for same price
 
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