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Old Nov 5, 2008 | 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Clint55
While we’re on the subject, which product would you suggest and why. .
I'm sold on the Bagger Brace. Why? First, it is machined from a block of aluminum, the others are welded steel. It is stiffer, and cannot flex. Given that they all surround the tranny pan, I like the large mating surface and stiffness. Second, the parts that attach to the crossbrace are designed to also transfer load to the frame. Third, the design is such that you lose NO ground clearance. Fourth, the fit and finish of the entire unit was exceptional, and the hardware was first-class. Everything that bolts in does so from the bottom, and all the bolts are recessed or countersunk - no bolt heads hanging down.

After installing and riding with mine, I recommended it to my father-in-law. We'll be installing his Saturday.....

All of them will improve your ride. I believe the Bagger Brace will do the best job, will outlast the bike, and will not rust. It also won't damage our bikes. It isn't the cheapest nor the most expensive, but I believe it is the best.
 
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Old Nov 5, 2008 | 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Comfortably Numb
Well, since you haven't felt it, and apparently have no idea how to initiate it, then just ignore all of us.....we're all just making it up anyway.

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I don't understand, why would you be trying to initiate a wobble?
 
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Old Nov 5, 2008 | 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by gmc
OK I'm confused! The MOCO can charge $20k plus for a MC with documented problems and you want to go after a little guy who can make a product a little cheaper than the big boys with their big overhead. Perhaps you should get the product and evaluate it. If the bike goes down and the problem is originally with the MOCO how can the aftermarket product be the blame?? I'm not a lawyer but the aftermarket product is only trying to correct an existing problem. Enough said.
I'm not going after the little guy - the little guy is entering the marketplace with a knockoff of a proven product. That knockoff APPEARS to be made of thinner material than the original, which raises some concern. Even the original (True-Track, a design that has a proven record) comes up short in comparison to a competitor (Bagger Brace, also a known proven design). HOWEVER, ALL of them MAY be up to the job, and work just fine - we just don't know, yet.

Any time you sell a product that modifies an existing product, you incur product liability. All these products are designed to allow you to ride faster in corners - and they all do. If one fails in a corner, the claim will be that the rider had a reasonable expectation that the device enabled the motorcycle to safely negotiate the corner at that speed and WOULD HAVE DONE SO IF IT HAD NOT FAILED STRUCTURALLY. Then the manufacturer gets to take the stand and explain the engineering behind the product, the quality assurance program, the testing the product went through prior to release, and all the other factors that make up DUE DILIGENCE. In today's lawsuit-happy society, I'd hate to take the stand and say "Well, I copied a proven design, 'cept I made it out of some thinner steel, and then I sold it. I didn't have an engineer evaluate it, I didn't have a test program, I do look 'em over when I pack them to ship them, but I sure wish I'd bought some product liability insurance!" Funny- as I type this, there is an ad beside this window for BestMotorcycleLawyer.com displayed......

I hope Aaron and his customers have nothing but great performance from his product. I believe the Bagger Brace (another little guy in the industry) to be a superior design and an extremely high-quality product, and that's where I choose to spend my money. I cut corners to save money, too - I buy stuff at Harbor Freight frequently. In fact, I installed my Bagger Brace with my Road Glide up on a HF lift, with it's front wheel in a HF chock, and used a couple of HF hex wrenches in the process. All of these products were cheaper copies of proven designs, but none of them were going to seriously injure me if they failed.
If HF sold their own brand of motorcycle tires, I wouldn't be buying them.

Aaron's product may do the job just fine. I know the Bagger Brace will.
 
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Old Nov 5, 2008 | 02:28 PM
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I haven't felt the "wobble", but these threads are always entertaining
 
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Old Nov 5, 2008 | 02:30 PM
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i recently got the throttle up. should come in today.
have i noticed a wobble? maybe, maybe not. obviously nothing BIG. just occassionally that little something. was it the road, was it my imagination, was it the wobble, was it nothing.

so i thought i would pick it up and give it a try. since i don't have a problem right now, it will be interesting to see how different this product makes the bike feel. so now all i have to do is get it installed and try it, but with winter looming, not sure when a real test could be completed.

was talking to an old mechanic/rider and he basically said if you don't push the limits then you don't really need one for the 300+ that the part costs. but this one cost less so i thought i might give it a try.

this product does appear to be similar to other products. works and perfoms the same function. all prices being equal i would most probably still go with this guy as i like to help the independent guy. this item, although a safety thing, would not IMO, have any adverse effects if it doesn't work. does it have a possiblility of failure after time? maybe, but again IMO not more than others. the only real thing would be the failure of the piston thingy. so i will give the independent guy a try.

i almost feel about this the way i feel about that IDS thing. not really necessary per se, but am glad i got it. the only difference is that this is an aftermarket piece.

and yeh, i do wish there was more proven use about it, but there is enough said that a stabilizer does do good things.
 
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Old Nov 5, 2008 | 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Teachu2
I'm sold on the Bagger Brace. Why? First, it is machined from a block of aluminum, the others are welded steel. It is stiffer, and cannot flex. Given that they all surround the tranny pan, I like the large mating surface and stiffness. Second, the parts that attach to the crossbrace are designed to also transfer load to the frame. Third, the design is such that you lose NO ground clearance. Fourth, the fit and finish of the entire unit was exceptional, and the hardware was first-class. Everything that bolts in does so from the bottom, and all the bolts are recessed or countersunk - no bolt heads hanging down.

After installing and riding with mine, I recommended it to my father-in-law. We'll be installing his Saturday.....

All of them will improve your ride. I believe the Bagger Brace will do the best job, will outlast the bike, and will not rust. It also won't damage our bikes. It isn't the cheapest nor the most expensive, but I believe it is the best.
Thanks for the response as well as the logic and reasons for your choice. All good food for thought before I make my final choice.
 
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Old Nov 5, 2008 | 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Trock
Never experienced a wobble on my bike but I'm sure some have. But I sometimes wonder how many wobble stories are started by Brace sellers.
I still believe Y2K was a big marketing ploy by computer manuafacturers so we would by software and hardware to fix it...
 
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Old Nov 5, 2008 | 02:59 PM
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Question was good. Lots of good answers.

Not everyone has the wobble, like most things, and most of those seem to disbelieve the existance of it for some reason.

Not all of the wobbles that people have had are from the same thing though and the TT won't fix them all.

My wobble was pretty bad but it turned out to be an alignment problem with mostly the front end and a bushing problem in the rear which took out most of the problem I could not do 80 k or 50 mph around a curve especially a right hand curve with out the bike walking across into the oncoming traffic lane. Once realigned the bike will take the same curves at twice the speed without a problem at all.

Get your alignment checked before you buy the TT and also have your tires checked for line, I have read on another post somewhere a lady rider, not sure if it was on here, had a front tire that was mishaped that caused her huge problems and nearly put her down. As she was a newer rider on a Heritage, I think, Dealer did not believe her until the mechanic took it for a burn and almost lost it. Took them awhile to figure out it was the tire though.
 
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Old Nov 5, 2008 | 04:45 PM
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ive noticed this wobble on an old fxrp work bike, a late 90's goldwing, a suzuki bandit, a kaw vulcan.... gold wings were well known for this too... people that notice it more ride much more agressive... i replaced my swing arm bushings at 30 some thousand miles, put a ride st8 on, and keep my tires fresh... this helps but im just riding past this bikes threshold....

imho harley is not the only company that experienced this. its called progress making something better through the generations of models..

this would be like saying cars in the 1970's should of had air bags....
 
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Old Nov 5, 2008 | 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Roadie_Glidin'
If they do a recall it will be the same as them admitting fault. Then the lawsuits will start rolling in since they no longer need to prove the problem exists, since the MOCO admitted it with the recall.

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Seems like that would be subject to a motion to exclude prior or at trial as being a "subsuquent remedial measure."
 
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