Starter problems
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The relay does not make noise. However, I can jump the wires at the relay and it will activate the starter. I checked the starter switch and it seems to be ok. I tried putting it in gear and pulling the clutch in and still nothing. The nutural light turns on when you put it in nutural. I wonder about the alarm brain. I wonder if it has deactivated the starter circuit. However, the alarm seems to be working right overall. I may have to take it to the dealer where they have better diagnostic equipment.
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The relay does not make noise. However, I can jump the wires at the relay and it will activate the starter. I checked the starter switch and it seems to be ok. I tried putting it in gear and pulling the clutch in and still nothing. The nutural light turns on when you put it in nutural. I wonder about the alarm brain. I wonder if it has deactivated the starter circuit. However, the alarm seems to be working right overall. I may have to take it to the dealer where they have better diagnostic equipment.
You seem to be avoiding the issue of where the voltage is. Do you have a meter? You can pick one up at Wally World for under $20.00. It's a good investment. If you want to avoid this costing you a couple hundred dollars, you need one.
Keep it simple! If the voltage isn't on the starter, back track.
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I think your reaching too much. The alarm is a remote possibility at best. I don't have the manual with me now, but I wouldn't think the starter would be connected to the maxifuse.
You seem to be avoiding the issue of where the voltage is. Do you have a meter? You can pick one up at Wally World for under $20.00. It's a good investment. If you want to avoid this costing you a couple hundred dollars, you need one.
Keep it simple! If the voltage isn't on the starter, back track.
You seem to be avoiding the issue of where the voltage is. Do you have a meter? You can pick one up at Wally World for under $20.00. It's a good investment. If you want to avoid this costing you a couple hundred dollars, you need one.
Keep it simple! If the voltage isn't on the starter, back track.
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From: saginaw michigan
If the engine starts when you jump it from the starter main cable to the solinoid the alarm system is not the problem. The second cable coming off the starter is the main power to the motorcycle. You should be able to hear the stater relay click, if it isn't, the problem is somewhere between relay, start switch, the ignition switch, run stop switch, neutral switch.
Shorting the main cable to ground should not have caused any issues except possibly the battery or cables.
What else were you working on? Were you working on the handle bar area, switches?
Shorting the main cable to ground should not have caused any issues except possibly the battery or cables.
What else were you working on? Were you working on the handle bar area, switches?
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Most of my experience is with shovelheads. I've got an 08 now, but haven't messed with the starter circuit. Of the two connections on the top of the starter, do they both have 12V on them? There should be one small wire that only energizes when you hit the start button with the key on. Is it doing that?
If you jumper (short) from the wire that comes from the battery to the wire that comes from the start button, does it turn over? If it does, the problem is at the starter button.
Hope this helps.
If you jumper (short) from the wire that comes from the battery to the wire that comes from the start button, does it turn over? If it does, the problem is at the starter button.
Hope this helps.
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I am curious about how you checked the starter relay. The start switch and wire running from the start switch to the relay should not have been effected. That is entirely a different circuit from the one you shorted. I am betting that the relay is bad in the circuit between the starter and the battery. I believe you have fried the relay.
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The conclusion to my problem is very strange. I finally gave up and jumped it and rode it to the dealership. When I got there I plugged the green wire back into the bottom of the starter and for kicks tried to start it and nothing, still dead. Today the dealership calls me and says it starts every time, no problem found. Needless to say I am very happy it did not cost me anything at the dealership. I wish I knew what was going on. I just hope this does not happen again in the future.
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I hope the dealer performed the SB M1231 procedure while there, as '07's have issues with starter-bolt torque which affects ground. If they didn't it would be prudent to get the SB and DIY, or take it back and let them do it. If you want the PDF email me and I'll forward it.
Last edited by iclick; Mar 9, 2010 at 10:44 PM.
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