Touring Models Road King, Road King Custom, Road King Classic, Road Glide, Street Glide, Electra Glide, Electra Glide Classic, and Electra Glide Ultra Classic bikes.
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

I'll be damned!

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old May 21, 2011 | 06:23 AM
  #11  
powerman1972's Avatar
powerman1972
Thread Starter
|
Tourer
15 Year Member
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 414
Likes: 43
From: Duluth, MN.
Default

Originally Posted by 103 sedona orange
I'm leaving my 2011 FLTRX 103 stock. It will be my first HD that I have not done mods on. Mine runs great & don't care how it sounds & if it runs hot, as long as it doesn'r ping. I'll do a re-map if it does. That's why I have the EXT. WARRANTY!!! It just seems to me that when you do any type of mods to these EFI engines & need tuners or whatever you call them,there seems to be problems. I'm sure guys out there have done mods & have no problems. But for me I'm into riding these days & not screwing around with some tuner. Of course that's my take on this.
I am starting to feel the same way as far as leaving the bike more or less stock! I ordered new pipes when i got the new bike, wanted to go a different route, so i ordered the V&H dresser dual head pipes along with the V&h monster oval mufflers. I'm thinkin about cancelling that order and stickin with the stock exhaust setup, putting a SE heavy breahter on the new bike along with the ecm reflash from the dealer.
 
Reply
Old May 21, 2011 | 06:27 AM
  #12  
strtarrow's Avatar
strtarrow
Banned
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 6,259
Likes: 5
From: NW NC
Default

Mushrooms.... Sorry, never had the need for speed or motor work but hard to believe. Then again, maybe HD did something right?????:icon_fr yingpan:
 
Reply
Old May 21, 2011 | 06:52 AM
  #13  
SpiderPig's Avatar
SpiderPig
Stellar HDF Member
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 3,036
Likes: 65
From: Earth
Default

Just to chime in here. I feel the same way about leaving it stock. Just picked up a 2010 Limited and the only mod I have done to the motor was to remove the cat and add V & H Monster Ovals. The bike runs strong even pulling a small Cyclemate 100 trailer. I still have my 06 in my sig that my son rides and while that thing runs extremely strong and is a blast to ride. I just do not want to deal with the issues that come up with the "chase for the HP game" I know several will also chime in about the correct tune, correct selection of parts that "compliment each other" and so on. I have been chasing pinging, and mileage issues with having the bike tuned a couple of times. Still have a ping at certain times and mileage in the mid to low 30's. Mileage may be directly associated with a "wrist turning problem that I seem to have". The point I am agreeing to is these new 103's run great and I am happy to leave it where it is at. Just wanted to get the heat out with removing the cat and like to looks of the Monster Ovals.
 
Reply
Old May 21, 2011 | 07:00 AM
  #14  
OnebikeMike's Avatar
OnebikeMike
Advanced
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 62
Likes: 0
Default Too much heat

I was going to leave my 96 inch 011 SG stock also but my wife said the heat from the cat was excessive. Those things run about 2000 degrees. Going to fuel moto head pipe, jackpots, screaming eagle air filter and pcv. Bike will be better.
 
Reply
Old May 21, 2011 | 07:02 AM
  #15  
Navy Mustang's Avatar
Navy Mustang
Road Master
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 986
Likes: 333
From: Las Vegas, NV
Default

I feel the same way about all the engine mods. 99% of the people I know whose bikes are kept stock (engine) have no issues with reliability or performance. Start adding tuners and cams etc and the woes begin. I know there are other who disagree but my 96 incher runs absolutely beautifully. K&N filter, rinehart slip ons. That's it, not even a Stage 1 flash. Bike runs superbly after 30K miles.
 
Reply
Old May 21, 2011 | 03:07 PM
  #16  
mtclassic's Avatar
mtclassic
Outstanding HDF Member
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 3,437
Likes: 15
Default

Originally Posted by powerman1972
Changed the "bad juju" 103" SG mostly back to stock today for the trade in. I had the Jackpot (fuel moto) headpipe, Rinehart 3.5" slip ons, SE heavy breather, and a power commander 5 downloaded with a map from Fuel moto. I left the heavy breather on the bike, put the stock mufflers back on the bike along with the stock headpipe, the bike already had the ecm reflashed from the dealer, and i also took the power commander off. My thoughts as i was driving it to the dealership was " this thing has more snap and low end mostly stock then it had with all the other stuff on!" How could this be? Basically i was more impressed with the mostly stock setup, the sound wasn't there because the "cat" headpipe and stock mufflers were back on but the performance was much better imo! Any thoughts?
I have argued on here plenty of times tht the stage 1 down load is pretty darn good. I will say I called dyno jet a while back and asked them about a download for a already stage 1 down load and they said they had not actually had their hands on a new bike that had the factory stage 1 down load but suggest a down load that I could try. I thought this was bs because they did not know that the stage 1 download does in fact richen the stock map. My guess is you were running rich and that is why it felt peppier with the dj removed.
 
Reply
Old May 21, 2011 | 03:17 PM
  #17  
Stiggy's Avatar
Stiggy
Seasoned HDF Member
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 17,548
Likes: 7,197
From: Oxford, Nc
Default

More back pressure, more torque. We generally modify these things for the top end power.
Which is why I didn't modify mine, I rarely get above 4,000 rpm.
 
Reply
Old May 21, 2011 | 03:40 PM
  #18  
Texas Rapier's Avatar
Texas Rapier
Road Warrior
Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 1,507
Likes: 23
From: Orange County Texas
Default

You stated the ECM was flashed from the dealer.

I'm no expert but the ECM being flashed for one tune and the Power Commander be loaded with a map for a stock ECM may have put them in conflict with each other and threw the tune off.
 
Reply
HD Forum Stories

The Best of Harley-Davidson for Lifelong Riders

story-0

7 Times Harley-Davidson Chucked Tradition Out the Window

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

7 Surprising Harley-Davidson Products that Are Not Motorcycles

 Verdad Gallardo
story-2

8 Best Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-3

10 Worst Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-4

Killer Custom's Jail Break Is The Breakout That Refused to Blend In

 Verdad Gallardo
story-5

Crazy Bunderbike Build Looks Amazing, But Is It Impossible to Ride?

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Harley-Davidson Reveals Super Cool Cafe Racer Concept

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

Engraved Rebellion: Inside Bundnerbike's Glam Rock II

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

10 Motorcycles You Should Never Buy

 Joe Kucinski
story-9

10 Things Harley-Davidson Needs to Fix in 2026

 Verdad Gallardo
Old May 21, 2011 | 06:14 PM
  #19  
powerman1972's Avatar
powerman1972
Thread Starter
|
Tourer
15 Year Member
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 414
Likes: 43
From: Duluth, MN.
Default

Originally Posted by Texas Rapier
You stated the ECM was flashed from the dealer.

I'm no expert but the ECM being flashed for one tune and the Power Commander be loaded with a map for a stock ECM may have put them in conflict with each other and threw the tune off.
When i bought the pc5 and the jackpot headpipe from fuel moto, i talked to Keith and told him i had the bike flashed at the dealership and what slip ons i was using. From what i understand the stage 1 download doesnt do anything with the fuel only timing. This according to the folks at fuel moto.
 
Reply
Old May 21, 2011 | 06:34 PM
  #20  
mtclassic's Avatar
mtclassic
Outstanding HDF Member
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 3,437
Likes: 15
Default

Originally Posted by powerman1972
When i bought the pc5 and the jackpot headpipe from fuel moto, i talked to Keith and told him i had the bike flashed at the dealership and what slip ons i was using. From what i understand the stage 1 download doesnt do anything with the fuel only timing. This according to the folks at fuel moto.
Yes dyno jet thought the same thing but stage 1 hd download does add fuel.
 
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:26 AM.

story-0
7 Times Harley-Davidson Chucked Tradition Out the Window

Slideshow: Harley-Davidson built its reputation on nostalgia, but every so often, the company took a hard left turn into the future.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-20 11:18:19


VIEW MORE
story-1
7 Surprising Harley-Davidson Products that Are Not Motorcycles

Slideshow: The bar-and-shield logo shows up on far more than motorcycles, some of the company's most unexpected products have nothing to do with riding.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-29 16:50:35


VIEW MORE
story-2
8 Best Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

Slideshow: Not every Harley gets it right, but these are the ones that genuinely earned their reputation.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-15 14:23:21


VIEW MORE
story-3
10 Worst Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

Slideshow: From the troubled AMF years to modern misfires, these bikes earned reputations for reliability issues, questionable engineering, or disappointing performance.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-01 20:01:09


VIEW MORE
story-4
Killer Custom's Jail Break Is The Breakout That Refused to Blend In

Slideshow: Killer Custom's "Jail Breaker" build focuses more on stance and visual aggression than mechanical overhaul.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-18 19:20:32


VIEW MORE
story-5
Crazy Bunderbike Build Looks Amazing, But Is It Impossible to Ride?

Slideshow: The Swiss custom shop has taken a Harley Softail and stretched it into something so long and low that it looks closer to a rolling sculpture than a conventional motorcycle.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-07 16:15:30


VIEW MORE
story-6
Harley-Davidson Reveals Super Cool Cafe Racer Concept

Slideshow: Harley-Davidson's new RMCR concept revives the café racer formula with modern hardware-and it may be exactly the reset the company needs.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-04 12:23:37


VIEW MORE
story-7
Engraved Rebellion: Inside Bundnerbike's Glam Rock II

Slideshow: A standard cruiser becomes an intricate metal canvas in the hands of a Swiss custom house known for pushing Harley-Davidson platforms far beyond their factory brief.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-02-24 18:19:44


VIEW MORE
story-8
10 Motorcycles You Should Never Buy

Slideshow: There is no shortage of great motorcycles to buy, but we would avoid these ten.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-02-19 14:50:51


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 Things Harley-Davidson Needs to Fix in 2026

Slideshow: Harley-Davidson's challenges aren't abstract; they show up in dropping shipments, shrinking dealer traffic, and strategic decisions that aren't yet translating into growth.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-01-13 18:33:17


VIEW MORE