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Old Oct 7, 2011 | 06:40 PM
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Default Fishtails: Samson M-119 vs. V&H fishtails slip-ons

I recently purchased a 2002 Road King Classic that the original owner had put on a set of Screaming Eagle slip-ons which don't sound too bad, but they're not very loud. I really like the looks of fishtails on RKC's, so I am thinking either a set of Samson M-119's or V&H fishtail slip-ons. Wondering if anyone has experience with both and can direct me to which set would be louder and deeper. I am looking for a nice deep rumble that is loud enough to be heard.

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Oh yeah... I am running stock headers, SE (with K&N) air cleaner, and stage I download.
 
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Old Oct 7, 2011 | 06:45 PM
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Samson's are the way to go in my opinion. I prefer the look of the fishtail and the sound. I run the baffleless version and it sounds wicked. they are loud and deep. There is nothing wrong with V&H, but I much prefer the Samson's. My buddy who had the V&H fishtails ended up getting Samson's after seeing and hearing mine.
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Old Oct 7, 2011 | 07:22 PM
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For sound only, I would go Samson, I went with V&H 3" FishTail IIs due to the fact they come with awesome full coverage (lengthwise) 220 degree beautiful chrome heat shields and I do prefer the look of the V&H endcaps... I do love the sound with Rush Ceramic coated true duals!! and u can remove the baffles and I bet u would be very happy with the volume
 
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Old Oct 7, 2011 | 07:33 PM
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I would go with the Samson pipes. However, if you want loud, you should go with the straight pipe slip-on instead of the M-119, which are mufflers. I had the M-119 on my Road King, but switched them out for the straight pipe 36" Long Tails.
 
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Old Oct 7, 2011 | 09:18 PM
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What he said. Plus the straight pipes look old skool and kewl.
 
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Old Oct 7, 2011 | 09:21 PM
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you can use your head pipe with the v&h. the sampsons its the whole assembly they use a larger dia pipe for their mufflers
 
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you can use your head pipe with the v&h. the sampsons its the whole assembly they use a larger dia pipe for their mufflers
Won't the Samson M-119 work with my stock head pipes?
 
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Originally Posted by Rev Dizzle
For sound only, I would go Samson, I went with V&H 3" FishTail IIs due to the fact they come with awesome full coverage (lengthwise) 220 degree beautiful chrome heat shields and I do prefer the look of the V&H endcaps... I do love the sound with Rush Ceramic coated true duals!! and u can remove the baffles and I bet u would be very happy with the volume
Can you elaborate on "for sound only." Do the V&H offer anything that's better than the Samson. From what I've seen the m-119's have a full heat-sheild (I could be completely wrong). Do the V&H perform better? Basically I want deep and fairly loud... I have heard rumor that the V&H's aren't very deep or loud (again I could be completely wrong). The problem is that I haven't been able to track down a bike with either sets to hear in person.
 
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Originally Posted by gtrplyr
Won't the Samson M-119 work with my stock head pipes?
Yes, the M-119 and the straight pipe slip-ons will work with the stock head pipes.
 
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Old Oct 8, 2011 | 09:40 AM
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Here is a link for the M-119 Fishtail mufflers http://www.samsonusa.com/M-119.html . There is a video and a separate sound clip.
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