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I have the FuelMoto offering the hardware is the updated SE kit. The filter element is Fabric (washable) like the K&N.
I think it was like $120 shipped to Texas
I have a power commander and am guessing I will need to download a map for the new air cleaner. Right now I am running stock pipes and mufflers, looked at all the maps available and don't see on for just the air cleaner upgrade. Will I have to remap, or will the ECM adjust for the additional air...If I have to remap, guess I will have to contact PC or fuelmoto for a map...Thanks for the input...
Over the course of a year on this site I spent much time wondering the same. I went SE becuae it is an HD part. I´ve not been let down, but there is always soemthing better. What matters is what you like and quality of the part. I like the SE. heard more negative stuff about the Arlen stuff, both are made in japan, if that bothers you, Doherty machine is the way to go, but it is $$$
Made in USA is stamped right on the front of the Arlen Ness BS filter
doherty makes a great one that usually makes the best torque and horsepower. i can't remember what they call it, but it's very similar to the arlen ness big sucker, screamin eagle stage 1 air cleaner, and others. it does have a better intake venturi for flow though, according to american iron magazine. it has a snap in ring if i remember right. i'm using a stage 1 harley backing plate with a zippers 5/8" deeper element on my built 103 and it flows just fine. no oil drips, but that's not caused by the air filter. there's a myst free doherty product that'll cure that drip.
I have a power commander and am guessing I will need to download a map for the new air cleaner. joe
Joe, in a combustion engine, it is vitally important to maintain the delicate balance between air flow and fuel flow, known as the A/F ratio (air/fuel ratio). The rule of thumb is: Whenever you change the air flow, you change the fuel flow.
Originally Posted by PDDGM
Will the ECM adjust for the additional air...joe
The ECM is capable of adjusting to certain operating conditions; however, I'm not certain of what those conditions may be. I'll let the experts chime in on this one.
You didn't ask about this but here's my $.02. I have the V&H VO2 naked which uses the stock cover, It has a K&N style, their own version, washable/oilable filter element.
I took the stealth (or cheap) route. I bought K&N filter for the stock harley air cleaner. Then drilled as many 3/4". 1/2" and 1/4" holes I could in the existing air cleaner back plate. All on the back or bottom, so you can't see them when looking at the bike standing near it. I did buy a stock back plate take off in Ebay for less than $25, so I could go back to stock if needed. I spent less than $100, the bike looks bone stock, seems to function fine in Stage 1 mode, and has a cleanable K&N air filter.
What I did is an old Zipper's trick, the guys there told me about years ago.
If you want the stock look, what I did is a decent option, if you want a different look, then what I did is not for you.
I put a Zipper's Maxflow on my 2010 FLHTC, along with SE Fatshotz. I bought the Xied-10 but haven't put it on yet. I asked my HD dealer about the download, and he told me since the Cat is in the headpipe, there is no download available on 2010-newer bikes. He said if I plan on doing anything else like cams, etc then I would be better off to save the $150 and put it towards a fuel processor.
Your dealer is an idiot. Changing from stock to a highflow air filter does in fact require a download at a minimum.
As far as to the OPs question. I went with the AN because I could get different color back-plates for the same cost (chrome or black are additional purchases with the SE), and the SE uses a paper filter. Other than that they are totally comparable as far as performance. I have had zero issues with my AN thus far. I would recommend.
I took the stealth (or cheap) route. I bought K&N filter for the stock harley air cleaner. Then drilled as many 3/4". 1/2" and 1/4" holes I could in the existing air cleaner back plate. All we on the back or bottom, so you can't see them when looking at the bike standing near it. I did buy a stock back plate take off in Ebay for less than $25, so I could go back to stock if needed. I spent less than $100, the bike looks bone stock, seems to function fine in Stage 1 mode, and has a cleanable K&N air filter.
What I did is an old Zipper's trick, the guys there told me about years ago.
If you want the stock look, what I did is a decent option, if you want a different look, then what I did is not for you.
I did the same thing and saved my $$$ (poor mans Stage 1) ... Bike Runs Great !!
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