se compensator
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Every time mine went bad it would grind only when the engine was hot. Mostly at gas stations. It would grind then bang it would start. Also this was the same symptom for a corroded solenoid but i just filed the contact plate to fix the solenoid. Basically the starter clutch is a one way bearing so when the engine starts the force from the engine doesn't damage the starter.
The starter clutch is to the left of item 29:
http://partsfinder.onlinemicrofiche....dmc&A=416&B=14
The starter clutch is to the left of item 29:
http://partsfinder.onlinemicrofiche....dmc&A=416&B=14
Last edited by soft 02; Dec 1, 2011 at 10:54 AM.
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Every time mine went bad it would grind only when the engine was hot. Mostly at gas stations. It would grind then bang it would start. Also this was the same symptom for a corroded solenoid but i just filed the contact plate to fix the solenoid. Basically the starter clutch is a one way bearing so when the engine starts the force from the engine doesn't damage the starter.
The starter clutch is to the left of item 29:
http://partsfinder.onlinemicrofiche....dmc&A=416&B=14
The starter clutch is to the left of item 29:
http://partsfinder.onlinemicrofiche....dmc&A=416&B=14
is their teeth on those gears messed up or what do i look for
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http://youtu.be/LlCZ4FU8tAE
here is a video of my bike i cant see any thing wrong with any of the teeth, can u guys take a look
here is a video of my bike i cant see any thing wrong with any of the teeth, can u guys take a look
From what I could see, everything looked OK.
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The third link is the best explanation.
http://www.mad-ducati.com/Technical/...ragClutch.html
http://www.gmnbt.com/freewheel_technology.htm
http://hrsbstaff.ednet.ns.ca/bvogel/...utch/index.htm
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If you have the grind replace the clutch. It's easy.
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Kinda hard to explain but its like a flat roller bearing but the rollers are hour glass shaped that only allows it to only go one way. Its actually a sprag clutch like in a automatic transmission. Ill try to find a link that explains it better. You can test it in a vise with some channel locks once you pull it out of the starter.
The third link is the best explanation.
http://www.mad-ducati.com/Technical/...ragClutch.html
http://www.gmnbt.com/freewheel_technology.htm
http://hrsbstaff.ednet.ns.ca/bvogel/...utch/index.htm
The third link is the best explanation.
http://www.mad-ducati.com/Technical/...ragClutch.html
http://www.gmnbt.com/freewheel_technology.htm
http://hrsbstaff.ednet.ns.ca/bvogel/...utch/index.htm
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I have pictures in an album on my Profile page of the clutch dissambled. You really can't see any thing wrong with it. The rollers are round and on a ramp that causes them to lock on the shaft. You would need to mic the bearing and shaft diameters to see what was worn but you would also have to know what they should be. I did not want to pull my new clutch apart to measure it. I would have bet a paycheck there would have been galling somewhere with the noise it makes. I came to the opinion you are hearing the sound of hardened parts slipping under some pretty high loads. I could not turn the old clutch in a vice when I stood on it hard but the new one works great and my compensator does not bang any more.
If you have the grind replace the clutch. It's easy.
If you have the grind replace the clutch. It's easy.
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i am having a grinding noise when starting my bike every now and then, it only happens about 1 out of every 30 starts. the battery is new so i plan on checking the starter drive gears
i am thinking about getting a se compensator installed while im in there
my question is my bike is an 05 se electraglide does it already have the se compensator?
i am thinking about getting a se compensator installed while im in there
my question is my bike is an 05 se electraglide does it already have the se compensator?
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You have to pull the outer primary for one stupid bolt then you can pull the starter. Leave the comp and clutch alone. In 07+ you can just pull the starter without pulling the outer primary cover.