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These are two completely different situations. We had a temp of 118 on July 2 and 117 on August 26, but that doesn't mean we had 55 days of 118+ temps. Your second statement I'm sure is correct and that is a lot of hot miserable weather. I'm sure Fabrik8r's fans will make a difference in your bike's operating temperatures.
It's no big deal! I did ride from Camp Pendleton,Ca to Austin Tx.... riding thru Az in the summer like to killed me! Az or Tx .. both get hot as Hades and wold be a great testing ground for Fabrik8er's cooling system.
Speaking of Fabrik8er .. would love to have your set up on my SG
K8R- haven't tuned in since you've posted the latest larger design -- I like it better than the smaller unit (although if the smaller unit could produce the results of the larger, I'd be there).
My thoughts on the 'mounting' are that while the engine assembly mounting points result in vibration, is seems the vibration is in 'tune' with the engine movement. I'd be leery of a mount point other than the engine which would necessitate a careful evaluation of how much 'space' to leave between the engine and the fan; and the fact that the space separation will vary with rpm and other riding conditions.... another potential customer problem I would think.... JMHO....
Still waiting to purchase and install.
As much forum attention as this development is attracting, I'm wondering if you're planning to offer 'numbered editions'? Could 'early editions' be collectible in 25 years???
K8R- haven't tuned in since you've posted the latest larger design -- I like it better than the smaller unit (although if the smaller unit could produce the results of the larger, I'd be there).
My thoughts on the 'mounting' are that while the engine assembly mounting points result in vibration, is seems the vibration is in 'tune' with the engine movement. I'd be leery of a mount point other than the engine which would necessitate a careful evaluation of how much 'space' to leave between the engine and the fan; and the fact that the space separation will vary with rpm and other riding conditions.... another potential customer problem I would think.... JMHO....
Still waiting to purchase and install.
As much forum attention as this development is attracting, I'm wondering if you're planning to offer 'numbered editions'? Could 'early editions' be collectible in 25 years???
I had similar thoughts on the mount as well, I was concerned with the allowance the motor can be out of alignment from one bike to the next and the potential for interference. I think it will be fine hanging from the horn mount. Not sure if this could rate collectible status in the future but that would be pretty cool, glad to know other people think so highly of this project. I'm working it but I'm running into some snags, I got a realistic goal of late spring early summer.
If I missed this in your thread, my apologies. But, when do you expect to have units available to sell and how much?
Nice work btw.
That's a little bit of a delicate subject since I have not bought advertising space on the forum yet, just not quite ready to execute. I am doing this and it will happen; I am currently working with several local machine shops for quotes to build components. I will assemble and weld myself to ensure a high quality finished product. I already have an agreement with a local powdercoater to get the paint done. I am also playing with some different components to make sure I get the best electrical parts I can, befor I commit to the final configuration and design. I'm trying to complete another prototype that incorporates a mini toggle switch into the mount, almost done. Anyway my goal is to have a limitied quantity ready by spring, and my intent is to keep the price relatively low. I also fully intend to give HD Forum members first dibs on mt first run, befor the general public. Somebody may build something cheaper to low ball me, but they won't beat the quality of my materials and construction methods. I appreciate everyones support and encouragement, I look forward to serving the forum.
Everybody is eager to purchase one of these units including myself. Y'all try to understand there is a sequence of events that has to happen before fabrik8ter can post about selling these things per forum rules. We don't want to see him have any complications there. Thank you fabrik8ter for keeping us informed on this venture. Great work bro! Good luck! Put me on the list when time is right.
I don't recall if you described your design decision process elements and whether or not you had considered a rightside mount (increasing the logistical mounting obstacles I know).
The reason I ask is it seems of benefit to blow air from right to left creating more of a 'heated air' balance to the rider since the exhaust is on the right side already.... you know, right leg hot, left leg cool and happy...
And, I say this knowing that it is easy to type alternatives, but much more difficult to research and develop testing... feel free to ignore the brain birp....
I don't recall if you described your design decision process elements and whether or not you had considered a rightside mount (increasing the logistical mounting obstacles I know).
The reason I ask is it seems of benefit to blow air from right to left creating more of a 'heated air' balance to the rider since the exhaust is on the right side already.... you know, right leg hot, left leg cool and happy...
And, I say this knowing that it is easy to type alternatives, but much more difficult to research and develop testing... feel free to ignore the brain birp....
Nothing wrong with your idea, but it is not likely something I would pursue. It's bad enough that some folks won't be able to use this system in conjunction with some alternative horns. If you consider the endless combination of pipes and air cleaners it would be damn near impossible to come up with a right side system that would work with them all. Even if you could just mount my system on the other side, it wouldn't work as well, the channels that runs through the heads are shrouded by the pushrod tubes, on the left side the spark plugs are exposed and the cut out area better exposes the heat of the combustion chamber. Rider comfort was not my primary goal, but keeping the heads considerably cooler does knock down some of the heat you feel. I've come to a conclusion about rider comfort with regards to heat, I think Captain Itch has been right all along, simply shield yourself from it, either with some type of midframe shield, or ceramic coating your pipes, or both. Alternative ideas are a good thing, I have taken the road less traveld and challenged conventional thinking on many of my projects and some of them have been very successfull, and some not, but you don't know till you try it. Unfortunately we only got so many creative man hours in this life, so you got to be selective about where you spend them. Let me get the sure thing rolling first then later maybe I can explore some alternative mountings.
in reference to the vibration thing, even though your unit is lighter than some aftermarket horns, there could be more stress placed on the mounting simply due to the increased leverage created by the length of the arms....
you may have already thought of this, but just throwing it out there.
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